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MoCo_Vol said:
First round upset specials.

South Region: 13 Chattanooga knocks off 4 Illinois, 10 Loyola upsets 7 Ohio St (honestly not an upset...but based on seeding it would be)
Midwest Region: 13 South Dakota St over 4 Providence, 14 Colgate over 3 Wisconsin
West Region: 11 Notre Dame over 6 Bama, 10 Davidson beats 7 Michigan State
East Region: 11 Virginia Tech over 6 Texas

Honestly could see even more with how badly seeded this year's bracket is.
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Murray St to the sweet 16
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
kiffin is always available 😈
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Nash_Vol97 said:
When I think back to the early Villanova game and the TTU game its crazy how different of a team we were. Those games were with Chandler still growing, ZZ hadnt really gained the trust and confidence he has now, BHH and Aidoo weren’t playing hardly any minutes because we still had Olivier, and JJJ was a ghost on offense.

This teams confidence and abilities at this point in the season compared to those early losses is night and day. Keep playing defense at an elite level like this group is and anything is possible.
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I think this team has the ability to cut down the nets but it also if we go ice cold on offense again then we could be out in the first or second round. Luckily we avoided the offense mishaps in the SEC tournament and I hope we avoid it for 6 more games. I’ve watched TN basketball for a long time and I feel like this is the best team we have fielded since grant and admiral were seniors. BHH and Aidoo coming along has changed this team tremendously. Also Uros isn’t as much of a liability offensively as he was at the beginning of the season. I still wish he would just go up and dunk the ball every opportunity he has instead of trying to tip it back in. But man I love this team no matter what and GO VOLS!
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I mean we also get a pretty good rest here. Sunday to Thursday and the team sounds focused on March and not settling for SECT Champs as the final goal.

But let's focus on how hot they are playing at the right time of year.

Kentucky's only been held to less than 65 points 5 times this season, twice it was against Tennessee. Mississippi State has only been held under 65 9 times, twice to Tennessee and A&M's lowest scoring game of the season was to Tennessee.

59.0 PPG is what we gave up on average in the SECT, defense wins championships I hope we're able to stay healthy and keep that trend going!
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I like that our defense has carried us this far. Defense is fundamentals and discipline. You don't just lose that.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Baseball was my sport. I know the game. This is like changing football rules to eliminate 2 high safeties because QBs are struggling to fit the ball in tight windows. The shift has been legal since the beginning of baseball. You don't change the rules because teams adapted their defenses. You adjust on offense. And the adjustments are actually pretty obvious.

And as for pitchers throwing 100 mph....great. Then it should be easier to go the other way instead of trying to pull the ball into a shift. Or do what some players did in the MLB post season last year...bunt down the 3rd base line for the easy single they're giving you until you get them out of the shift.

This isn't about the game being harder now. It's about hitters being too stubborn and prideful to adapt...even when that adaptation is something as simple and obvious like bunting. Not that bunting is a skill anyone learns anymore. But why make them, when we can just change the rules to accommodate their lack of skill? That's what sports are all about. I guess.
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They have changed several years throughout the years in football and basketball to make it easier for the offense. I hate the shift but don’t like the rule change either…. As for talking about guys going the opposite way…… players are taught an entirely different style of hitting nowadays…. I don’t think it is that simple for them to change their swing to go the opposite way anymore.
 
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Pridedad said:
Let me qualify this saying we are gonna win it all but what is the floor for tournament wins for this season to not be a failure in the eye of volnation?
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2.

There would be no shame in losing to Nova and that wouldn't be a failure. That is merely a 50/50 game.

But I do expect us to beat the first 2 teams that we are fully expected to beat. This has been too good of a season not to throw in a SS. An EE would be the cherry on top though.
 
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BigOrangeVols said:
I think we would roll them right now. We just pummeled Kentucky and I think we played a B/C grade game. Hardest game I'm looking at is Arizona possibly in the elite 8 but Arizona imo is not usually a good tourney team and could get bounced in the sweet 16. We are that team that absolutely no one wants to play right now and I think the confidence we'll have coming off the SEC champ will be unbelievable.
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If you run it by seeds

Gotta win against Longwood, Colorado State, Villanova, Arizona to make the big dance. And in the Final Four we'd face Kansas.

I think Arizona should be able to get to the Sweet Sixteen. I don't think Seton Hall or TCU got much shot to upset them and really don't see them losing the first game either. But Houston, UAB, Illinois, or even Chattanooga are all teams that could pull it off.

I think Baylor has the toughest 1 seed path. A 2nd round matchup with North Carolina potentially? And your potential 4 seed matchup is UCLA? Then you get rewarded with either Purdue or Kentucky?

Zags I think got off the easiest, but man would it be something if Lanier upsets them! But they got one of the weaker 2 seeds imo in Duke, Texas Tech as a 3 seed and Arkansas as their 4 seed.

I hope Vols win out but I'm ready for some major upsets in the rest of the bracket.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
First round upset specials.

South Region: 13 Chattanooga knocks off 4 Illinois, 10 Loyola upsets 7 Ohio St (honestly not an upset...but based on seeding it would be)
Midwest Region: 13 South Dakota St over 4 Providence, 14 Colgate over 3 Wisconsin
West Region: 11 Notre Dame over 6 Bama, 10 Davidson beats 7 Michigan State
East Region: 11 Virginia Tech over 6 Texas

Honestly could see even more with how badly seeded this year's bracket is.
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Davidson and Michigan State is gonna be one of the best first round matchups to watch. Also I would love for the hometown Mocs to knock of Illinois
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I mean Nova ain't a shoe-in to get to the Sweet Sixteen either.

I'll just say it, they are the weakest 2 seed imo. And their defense is suspect, sure in PPG they are 27th at only giving up 63.1, but when you dissect things it's the only area they really look good.

They don't rebound well (231st in defensive rebounding, 200th in total rebounding) they don't generate a lot of steals (218th) they don't block many shots (310th). Their offense is essentially shortening games for opponents and that's why they don't give up a ton of points.

For reference we're 79th in total rebounding, 9th in steals, 51st in blocks. Also a benefit of playing in a low scoring conference.
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Our rebounding has been excellent recently. The big men rebound. The small men rebound. ZZ and Chandler out there boarding over power forwards all tournament 😅

The one concern I had this season is how we could possibly keep up with teams that had great bigs. Well, all we did was dominate the likes of UK and Auburn on the boards. We've proven ourselves and then some. I really have no concerns, except the possibility of a cold shooting night from outside.
 
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BigSteve09 said:
Been wasting money on buster ass coaches for years and we're gonna start whining about cutting the check for an elite QB?

Everyone agrees that the best way to jumpstart a program's rise is with great recruiting, usually lead by an elite QB.

So... remind me why we're arguing?
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Not to mention that except for possible $19.51/mo., it's not "our" money
 
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If we believe we are legitimately a 2 seed, then it seems like we shouldn't be afraid to play the teams we feel are improperly seeded ahead of us. Are we really 5th? Play like it and win. The entire argument is that we aren't the team Nova beat months ago. Fine, then beating them shouldn't be a problem. Sure we were disrespected. We're Tennessee. That's part of the job description.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
First round upset specials.

South Region: 13 Chattanooga knocks off 4 Illinois, 10 Loyola upsets 7 Ohio St (honestly not an upset...but based on seeding it would be)
Midwest Region: 13 South Dakota St over 4 Providence, 14 Colgate over 3 Wisconsin
West Region: 11 Notre Dame over 6 Bama, 10 Davidson beats 7 Michigan State
East Region: 11 Virginia Tech over 6 Texas

Honestly could see even more with how badly seeded this year's bracket is.
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Michigan Colorado St will be interesting. They might be an 11/6 matchup, but are within 5 spots of one another in both NET and KenPom. Colorado St ranks as one of the luckiest teams all year and Michigan one of the unluckiest. It'll be an interesting one.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I mean Nova ain't a shoe-in to get to the Sweet Sixteen either.

I'll just say it, they are the weakest 2 seed imo. And their defense is suspect, sure in PPG they are 27th at only giving up 63.1, but when you dissect things it's the only area they really look good.

They don't rebound well (231st in defensive rebounding, 200th in total rebounding) they don't generate a lot of steals (218th) they don't block many shots (310th). Their offense is essentially shortening games for opponents and that's why they don't give up a ton of points.

For reference we're 79th in total rebounding, 9th in steals, 51st in blocks. Also a benefit of playing in a low scoring conference.
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they hang their hat on shooting 3's. so that doesn't equate to a lot of fluffed up rebound stats, and creates transition opportunities for opponents.. they're willing to give up 2's.

from a match up standpoint...just talking about teams that take a lot of 3 pt shots, regardless of 3p FG%...Nova takes 26/game...top 40 in the country. they make about 9 or 10/game...26th nationally. the only team we've played this season that's in that category is Bama, who takes right at 31/game and makes 10 or 11. Florida also takes about 26 a game, but only makes about 8.

Vandy and Auburn are outside the top 40, but take 24/game, both making about 8/game.

Longwood is top 15 nationally in 3pt fg%, but they only take 21 or so, making 8.

so it seems like however many shots you need to take to get 9 or 10 makes, is what you're going for, if you're going to be a 3 pt shooting team. which Nova is.

%made is one thing, and you can't be 20% from the field or anything, but Nova is getting 27/30 pts a game on 3's. so, our ability to defend will be tested....but historically teams like that...Nova, Bama, Loyola, Auburn when they were really a 3 pt shooting team the past couple years...even against good Barnes' defense, they give us problems because we want most teams we play to rely on lower % shots. these types of teams are fine with that.

we have to make shots, and pressure the ball. everything has to be contested and defensively rely on your help, stay with your guy. Longwood will be a good test...
 
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Devo182 said:
Our rebounding has been excellent recently. The big men rebound. The small men rebound. ZZ and Chandler out there boarding over power forwards all tournament 😅

The one concern I had this season is how we could possibly keep up with teams that had great bigs. Well, all we did was dominate the likes of UK and Auburn on the boards. We've proven ourselves and then some. I really have no concerns, except the possibility of a cold shooting night from outside.
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Our Free Throw shooting is my worry. Cause in the tournament the difference between losing on a dagger 3 or going to OT could come down to missing 1 of 2 at the line when the team is trying to extend the game. Last four games we shot under 70% from the charity stripe too, but it didn't matter thankfully. Part of that was ZZ shooting 50% against Arkansas and KC went 0-3 from the line against them. I'm hoping the rest helps with that though.

We got 6 days off after Arkansas and played as fresh as I've seen us play all season on both sides of the court. I'm sure 4 days off after will help as well.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
If you run it by seeds

Gotta win against Longwood, Colorado State, Villanova, Arizona to make the big dance. And in the Final Four we'd face Kansas.

I think Arizona should be able to get to the Sweet Sixteen. I don't think Seton Hall or TCU got much shot to upset them and really don't see them losing the first game either. But Houston, UAB, Illinois, or even Chattanooga are all teams that could pull it off.

I think Baylor has the toughest 1 seed path. A 2nd round matchup with North Carolina potentially? And your potential 4 seed matchup is UCLA? Then you get rewarded with either Purdue or Kentucky?

Zags I think got off the easiest, but man would it be something if Lanier upsets them! But they got one of the weaker 2 seeds imo in Duke, Texas Tech as a 3 seed and Arkansas as their 4 seed.

I hope Vols win out but I'm ready for some major upsets in the rest of the bracket.
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I agree for sure. Houston can certainly beat Arizona. I definitely don't want to play Houston either but when you get sweet 16 and elite 8 you gotta play the best teams. I think we can certainly make a final 4 and we may even be favored in every game leading up to the elite 8 where I couldn't see Arizona as more than a 3 point favorite.
 
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