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Russia Foreign Ministry now threatening Finland.

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#Zakharova: We regard the Finnish government’s commitment to a military non-alignment policy as an important factor in ensuring security and stability in northern Europe.

Finland’s accession to @NATO would have serious military and political repercussions.

If I'm Finland, thinking well if they'll invade non-NATO Ukraine, then they'll invade non-NATO Finland.

Solution: Join NATO. Pronto.

Anyone even suggesting Russia would attack a NATO country knows zilch. Russia would be destroyed.
 
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Someone explain this one... EU sanctions Putin himself, yet the US has not.

WTF we waiting for, Joe... waiting for Russia to nuke Ukraine first?

This pisses me off.

EU to freeze assets on Vladimir Putin, Sergey Lavrov - Latvian official
The European Union agreed to freeze the assets of Russian President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov along with other sanctions, according to Latvia's foreign minister.

Biden announces new sanctions on Russian banks, elites but not yet on Putin himself
 
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ButchPlz said:
Yes, some, but not all.

Broadly using "cyberattacks" as a reason to go to an armed physical war is insane. It is ludicrous to assume they wouldn't use one that is not part of the "some" to justify conflict.
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So NATO is only allowed to invoke Article 5 if all of the cyberattacks out of Russia were directed/paid for by the Russian government? That's interesting logic.

Also, you seem to be reading "armed physical war" into the statement. It could very well mean if a NATO country was hit with a cyberattack, the rest of the alliance would be compelled to come to the defense of the alliance with retaliatory cyberattacks.
 
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MontyPython said:
Russia Foreign Ministry now threatening Finland.

MFA Russia 🇷🇺@mfa_russiaRussia government organization💬

#Zakharova: We regard the Finnish government’s commitment to a military non-alignment policy as an important factor in ensuring security and stability in northern Europe.

Finland’s accession to @NATO would have serious military and political repercussions.

If I'm Finland, thinking well if they'll invade non-NATO Ukraine, then they'll invade non-NATO Finland.

Solution: Join NATO. Pronto.

Anyone even suggesting Russia would attack a NATO country knows zilch. Russia would be destroyed.
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NATO would treat them just like Ukraine. They aren't getting in. If we want to confront Russian agression, it will need to be outside NATO.
 
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utvols88 said:
The answers are long term moves.

Restore our pipeline, ramp up production and level the absence of Russian energy in Europe.

Meanwhile, invest in nuclear energy and become not only self sufficient but exporters of energy. Also encourage Europe to revamp theirs.

Remove Russia from all trade and SWIFT. Declare anyone who helps Russia will be equally sanctioned, India.

Sign a treaty with Taiwan. Acquire all minerals and materials needed to dominate the semiconductor space.
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Take away India and I'm not sure what I'll do with my time on the phone with tech support trying understand wth they're trying to say.
 
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Weezy said:
NATO would treat them just like Ukraine. They aren't getting in. If we want to confront Russian agression, it will need to be outside NATO.
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Finland just gave Ukraine $50M in aid.

I suspect anti-Russian sentiment will groundswell now in Sweden and Finland. Putin really is an egomaniac to be threatening either country.
 
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LouderVol said:
Usually you dont include the criticism of Biden and JUST go after Trump.
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Guilty as charged.
But I have made it a point to say several times -
I did not support Biden in the primary.
I always thought he was to old for the job and quickly getting worse.
That the 25th could be used and I would be okay.
And finally and thankfully - there is no way in hell he runs for re-election.
 
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MontyPython said:
Russia Foreign Ministry now threatening Finland.

MFA Russia 🇷🇺@mfa_russiaRussia government organization💬

#Zakharova: We regard the Finnish government’s commitment to a military non-alignment policy as an important factor in ensuring security and stability in northern Europe.

Finland’s accession to @NATO would have serious military and political repercussions.

If I'm Finland, thinking well if they'll invade non-NATO Ukraine, then they'll invade non-NATO Finland.

Solution: Join NATO. Pronto.

Anyone even suggesting Russia would attack a NATO country knows zilch. Russia would be destroyed.
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Get those F-35’s there pronto
Actually will not get them for years
 
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MontyPython said:
Someone explain this one... EU sanctions Putin himself, yet the US has not.

WTF we waiting for, Joe... waiting for Russia to nuke Ukraine first?

This pisses me off.

EU to freeze assets on Vladimir Putin, Sergey Lavrov - Latvian official
The European Union agreed to freeze the assets of Russian President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov along with other sanctions, according to Latvia's foreign minister.

Biden announces new sanctions on Russian banks, elites but not yet on Putin himself
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I don’t think these sanctions are going to have the desired effect. They may just strengthen Russia’s resolve and further isolate them, which may preclude any possibility of lasting peace
 
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