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NurseGoodVol said:
It is one of the vitamins along with B complex and C I took with covid. I also took zinc and selenium along with anticoagulating myself. I believe it kept me out of the hospital.
I continue that regimen along with eating better.
The things that should be forefront of prevention of disease with the cdc have been pushed aside and not spoken about much. Good nutrition, exercise and getting outdoors. I believe lockdowns set up the perfect storm for covid to continue the spread.
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I haven't heard the cdc or anyone in the government say anything about nutrition, excercise or anything else to mitigate the chances of getting covid. They pretty much advocate staying away from people, wearing a mask and getting vaxxed.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
An excerpt from the 2nd link I’d hate for @EasternVol to miss

A document published by the World Health Organisation in 2019 framed the results of these studies in no uncertain terms: “there was no evidence that face masks are effective in reducing transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza”. It’s unsurprising, then, that when the CDC briefed reporters on the pandemic in February of 2020, masking was not even mentioned among the NPIs that might be deployed. The UK government, too, stated early in 2020 that there was no evidence to support masking.

After the CDC and other agencies revised their guidance in April 2020, Dr. Anthony Fauci, by then a staunch advocate of masks, claimed that he and other officials had discouraged the public from obtaining masks to ensure there were adequate supplies for health care workers. Ever since, promoters of masking have cited Fauci’s “noble lie” to account for the abrupt reversal of prior guidance. But as Miller notes, it was not just during the early months of the pandemic that officials said masks were ineffective. They had said so for years, and Fauci had advised against masks not just in public statements but in private emails in early 2020
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Both links are to political editorials. Where can we find the WHO study that refutes the utility of masks?
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
It is one of the vitamins along with B complex and C I took with covid. I also took zinc and selenium along with anticoagulating myself. I believe it kept me out of the hospital.
I continue that regimen along with eating better.
The things that should be forefront of prevention of disease with the cdc have been pushed aside and not spoken about much. Good nutrition, exercise and getting outdoors. I believe lockdowns set up the perfect storm for covid to continue the spread.
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Very underrated and not talked about a lot.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
The CDC said they don't work. It's common sense they aren't going to stop it from spreading.
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Where can I find the CDC saying they don't work? It's easy to find (CDC website) the CDC saying they do work.
Orange_Vol1321 said:
The CDC director said it last month hence the push for N95 all of a sudden. Which is better material but still won't stop it.
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It seems she said that cloth masks are not as effective as surgical masks and respirators, not that they're not effective. Which is known.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
From an ICU perspective. We see people who don’t get outside, don’t eat properly and are overall nutritionally deficient.
Tbh I’ve never seen this many people just so unhealthy. Seems like every pt comes in with low albumin, low globulins and low vitamin D.
On a personal level I have a daughter with hoshimotos thyroiditis and takes vitamin D daily. She just tested positive for covid this week. Mild symptoms and is getting better.
People need to get outside while the sun is shining and enjoy it. Stop using drive throughs for nutrition.
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Just look how many of the carts they have to move people around airports. It used to be only for really elderly, handicapped, or injured people. Now there are so many of them zipping around that it’s hard to walk. And they are mostly carrying around obese or lazy people.
 
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DC_Vol said:
Just look how many of the carts they have to move people around airports. It used to be only for really elderly, handicapped, or injured people. Now there are so many of them zipping around that it’s hard to walk. And they are mostly carrying around obese or lazy people.
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It's like Wall-E was prophetic.
 
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EasternVol said:
Where can I find the CDC saying they don't work? It's easy to find (CDC website) the CDC saying they do work.

It seems she said that cloth masks are not as effective as surgical masks and respirators, not that they're not effective. Which is known.
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A surgical mask is no different than a cloth mask. A respirator is night and day to either one of them and seals to the face. It would have the corresponding filters on it that could stop a virus sphere of this micron size.
 
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volfanhill said:
No country had a pandemic plan that included mandates and shut downs. They all focused on ones that were respiratory in nature. The science did not change. Panic changed the science and public. Me included. Never again

Why didn’t pandemic planning anticipate the need for lockdowns?
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Everyone gets a pass for the first few months of the pandemic.

Then, you have the F-tards that are still forcing my kids to wear cloth "masks" to school, keeping me from taking a cruise despite my immunity vs both the earlier and Omicron strains, and demanding that people take more boosters for a virus that has now mutated to a state not neutralized by mRNA shot-stimulated antibodies.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Everyone gets a pass for the first few months of the pandemic.

Then, you have the F-tards that are still forcing my kids to wear cloth "masks" to school, keeping me from taking a cruise despite my immunity vs both the earlier and Omicron strains, and demanding that people take more boosters for a virus that has now mutated to a state not neutralized by mRNA shot-stimulated antibodies.
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I appreciate that but it has further entrenched my belief that the federal government is incapable of anything. I gave them the benefit of the doubt. It amazes me that so many are just ok with Fauci lying. To be clear he admitted to lying. The face of the govs pandemic can't be an admitted liar. Don't care his reasoning. He's either lying now that masks work was lying then when he said they didn't. Liar.
 
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volfanhill said:
I appreciate that but it has further entrenched my belief that the federal government is incapable of anything. I gave them the benefit of the doubt. It amazes me that so many are just ok with Fauci lying. To be clear he admitted to lying. The face of the govs pandemic can't be an admitted liar. Don't care his reasoning. He's either lying now that masks work was lying then when he said they didn't. Liar.
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To be clear, he has emails with "Gain of Function" in the subject matter.

Agree 100%. I'm not sure where we go from here. As a physician, I don't know how I will view recommendations from the CDC and other advisory institutions in the future. I can easily see what I see and understand disease impact in my own patients.

I've never really been very politicly interested until the past couple of years. Now, I'm leaning towards the idea that government should exist to protect us from enemies and preserve our liberties, and that's about it.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
To be clear, he has emails with "Gain of Function" in the subject matter.

Agree 100%. I'm not sure where we go from here. As a physician, I don't know how I will view recommendations from the CDC and other advisory institutions in the future. I can easily see what I see and understand disease impact in my own patients.

I've never really been very politicly interested until the past couple of years. Now, I'm leaning towards the idea that government should exist to protect us from enemies and preserve our liberties, and that's about it.
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Correct. I wasn't even getting into GOF stuff. That's even uglier. I just don't see how everyone can't agree he's a liar. I don't want to hear it was for a good reason. You are the damn face of this thing. You don't get to lie.
 
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volfanhill said:
Correct. I wasn't even getting into GOF stuff. That's even uglier. I just don't see how everyone can't agree he's a liar. I don't want to hear it was for a good reason. You are the damn face of this thing. You don't get to lie.
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It’s entirely possible that is he’s another incompetent arrogant high placed government moron that had no idea that what he was saying was complete BS. 🤷‍♂️

I mean… at least he’s got a mean baseball pitch right?
 
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EasternVol said:
Looking for facts, not someone's loaded opinion
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That’s rich coming from you. You’ve got another reply waiting on you. Yes the virus can exist free of a water droplet that is the whole point of the asymptomatic spread. Your article from July 2020 doesn’t present the current theory around the asymptomatic aerosol spread. Hell my own primary care physician told me this in 2020
 
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