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[Orange_Vol1321]

A highlight reel that has all the impartiality of a Bama game highlight reel produced by UA Athletics.

I am having trouble finding evidence to corroborate the claim of 17000 doctor members of the organization. Their own website does not even provide this information.

This group is a shell organization for another group. Hint: the parent group is registered only in Arizona and is not medical in nature.

This isn't surprising you can't find info. When you type their name in a search engine, nothing but negative stories from the usual websites come up with the normal label of "misinformation."

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Sen. Ron Johnson’s team just published a 40 min highlight reel from the roundtable on Monday. Anybody who missed it check it out. These are real doctors and nurses speaking out. There are more doctors (17,000 plus) in the American Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) then there are doctors and scientists in the NIH and the CDC combined. The NIH has 1,345 credentialed physicians, dentists, and PhD researchers. 840 staff in nursing and patient care/support services. The CDC has approximately 1700 scientists

It is on YouTube and Rumble as well.

I believe that's more than the NIH, CDC, and FDA combined.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Fox News is mainstream but not liberal and smokes every other television news source in ratings. Local channels are likely either controlled by Gannett or Sinclair, which are both staunchly conservative. Conservative talk radio is extremely popular.

Tell me again how the "left" has such a tight control on the "media".

Don’t be naive. In the MSM nearly 85-90% of journalists and editors refer to themselves as liberals or vote democrat.

 

[AshG]

I believe that's more than the NIH, CDC, and FDA combined.

So? There are more Chinese communists than American Republicans or Democrats combined. Must make them right.

 

[AshG]

This isn't surprising you can't find info. When you type their name in a search engine, nothing but negative stories from the usual websites come up with the normal label of "misinformation."

I found it pretty easily, actually.

 

[Septic]

Don’t be naive. In the MSM nearly 85-90% of journalists and editors refer to themselves as liberals or vote democrat.

Did you conduct this poll yourself?

I'm going to need to see your methodology and sources for this claim.

Guys like you label everyone who doesn't toe your line as a lib, the "MSM" being all lefties is narrative that you guys keep repeating to discredit their criticisms of your partisan flavor of the month. What defines MSM anyway? At this point you've repeated it so much that you've come to believe it, demonizing the "main stream" media is a way to reconcile turning to fringe blogs or hyper-partisan outlets for "da' truth". The truth is, none of these media outlets care about partisanship any further past what fills their coffers with cash. If they have an agenda, it's that.

They sell you a product and your confirmation bias laps up what you want to hear and rejects what you don't.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

So? There are more Chinese communists than American Republicans or Democrats combined. Must make them right.

If you want to go with that comparison more power to you.

 

[AshG]

If you want to go with that comparison more power to you.

My point is that quantity does not necessarily create quality. There are multiple avenues of metrics that have to be considered.

 

[VolinWayne]

A highlight reel that has all the impartiality of a Bama game highlight reel produced by UA Athletics.

I am having trouble finding evidence to corroborate the claim of 17000 doctor members of the organization. Their own website does not even provide this information.

This group is a shell organization for another group. Hint: the parent group is registered only in Arizona and is not medical in nature.

They are a group of doctors who have been demonized by the MSM because they are going against the global narrative and they are actually providing treatment for patients unlike the policy of hospitals that are basically telling patients to go home and don't come back until you are in really bad shape. Also, I don't think they care what their patients political leanings are. I'll try to find some proof of the 17,000 doctors.

 

[newyorkvol]

Not following the science?? Attack the messengers? Can’t believe Washington Post? What will be the excuse now??

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...afely-make-masks-optional-new-cdc-guidelines/

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

My point is that quantity does not necessarily create quality. There are multiple avenues of metrics that have to be considered.

Yea like most of those 17,000 went to college for 12 years and are experts at what they do?

 

[AshG]

Yea like most of those 17,000 went to college for 12 years and are experts at what they do?

What do you call the person who graduates in the bottom 5% of their med school class?

Doctor.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

What do you call the person who graduates in the bottom 5% of their med school class?

Doctor.

Lol, yea ok.

 

[Septic]

What do you call the person who graduates in the bottom 5% of their med school class?

This would have been an easy place to take an unprovoked swipe at @kiddiedoc .

 

[Rickyvol77]

What do you call the person who graduates in the bottom 5% of their med school class?

Doctor.

Would you say that they are better educated than you on the subjects at hand?

 

[AshG]

This would have been an easy place to take an unprovoked swipe at @kiddiedoc .

Not going to do that, though. He and I may have some disagreements, but he's never crossed the line with me in a way that would warrant that kind of poor behavior on my part.

 

[AshG]

Would you say that they are better educated than you on the subjects at hand?

Depends on which subject. Medical procedures? Yes, without a doubt. Proper research practices? Most likely, no.

 

[Septic]

Not going to do that, though. He and I may have some disagreements, but he's never crossed the line with me in a way that would warrant that kind of poor behavior on my part.

It was a joke.

 

[rjd970]

I’ve been asking this since the beginning of the pandemic - what metric are we using to define when we’ve reached finish line and this is over? What is the goal and how is it defined?

Until this gets answered the Covid debate and masks, vaccinations, mandates, and political posturing will continue. The nuts living in fear and castigating the non vaxxed and celebrating deaths will have to continue to deal with “frustrations and stupidity” of those that don’t agree until somebody actually goes on the record and draws a line in the sand. Until that happens I’m siding with the skeptics because we are almost 2 years into this and nothing is changing.

 

[AshG]

I’ve been asking this since the beginning of the pandemic - what metric are we using to define when we’ve reached finish line and this is over? What is the goal and how is it defined?

Until this gets answered the Covid debate and masks, vaccinations, mandates, and political posturing will continue. The nuts living in fear and castigating the non vaxxed and celebrating deaths will have to continue to deal with “frustrations and stupidity” of those that don’t agree until somebody actually goes on the record and draws a line in the sand. Until that happens I’m siding with the skeptics because we are almost 2 years into this and nothing is changing.

How long did the flu epidemic in the 191x last?

 

[luthervol]

Hard to describe any particular story. I stopped watching it over a year ago because of their slant. Their full in on Covid, BLM, etc.

Taking COVID seriously and understanding and even supporting BLM is not leftist. It's centrist.
Rightwing media attempts to paint it as leftist.
The concept that "if it's not conservative (rightwing) then it's leftwing" is simply wrong.

 

[rjd970]

How long did the flu epidemic in the 191x last?

We still have the Flu.

In a 100 years we will still have Covid.

At some point we need to just decide it is time to get back to normal. Masking mandates, vax passports, quarantining, etc is past the point of doing any measurable good anymore.

I don’t see how any reasonable person can’t come to the conclusion this is all about government control, virtue signaling, and Internet clicks at this point.

 

[AshG]

I don’t see how any reasonable person can’t come to the conclusion this is all about control and virtue signaling at this point.

 

[rjd970]

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This kind of nonsense is a large part of the problem.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Taking COVID seriously and understanding and even supporting BLM is not leftist. It's centrist.
Rightwing media attempts to paint it as leftist.
The concept that "if it's not conservative (rightwing) then it's leftwing" is simply wrong.

You might be stupid