Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[BigSteve09]

 

[jakez4ut]

NIL has changed recruiting completely. You can be a great recruiter in the old system, and get no one. You can be a poor recruiter today and get 5 stars. NIL is now the only thing that matters. You can't even judge your head coach on recruiting. It's not his fault if the NIL for his program isn't good enough.

Yup

 

[Dudley Smith]

I have to confess, there's been a point in every recent college football season where I've asked myself, why do I enjoy this sport so much?

It's the most top-heavy sport in America - outside of maybe 3 or so programs every year, no one else has a chance at a title based on simple talent alone. And outside of maybe 6 or 7 programs, no one honestly has any chance of winning one in the next 5 years, based on current talent and the amount of time and stability it takes to build up a full roster. NIL will only make this worse.

Saturdays are filled with lots of lopside blowouts and there haven't been any major season changing upsets in years.

But alas, I love the Vols and I enjoy hate watching various programs, so I find myself coming back year after year...

 

[Weezer]

Here's the exchange:

Your response:


My reply:
You did not make a point. You asked a question that was a complete non sequitur. Nothing he stated implied any position on the matter of your question. Moreover the explicit context of the post was the meltdown over missing a transfer we wanted! No one in their right mind (only you) doubted that we offered the transfer because we wanted him.

Your question itself was stupid contextually. It was also extremely stupid logically speaking; but it did have a rhetorical intent: you wanted to falsely imply that his statement contained the silent premiss that we have not missed on any recruits. Which is obviously false. And which he in no way implied or meant to imply. Why?

You wanted to trick people into illogically drawing the false inference that his statement (which was a prediction -- and even that of the "likely" -- and not a truth claim) was false, swayed by their emotion when baited by your facile and irrelevant question at a time when they were upset.

It was like the lowest garbage the politicians swim in when they call themselves "debating". It was as if someone had said "it's likely to rain tomorrow," and you made your big comeback "point" by asking "So you're saying no one has ever eaten lunch?"

No one capable of reason will buy what you are selling. I can't speak for the others.

I'm not going to read through all your BS because you didn't continue to follow the conversation. Conversations consist of more than one post. When you take one post and then launch personal attacks on me, you're damn right I'm going to question your intelligence. Try going back and reading my follow up posts and see the point I was making. Otherwise, I have no desire to keep trading barbs.

A statement for those of you who continually do it, a conversation consists of more than one post. Before singling out one post, try reading the series of posts to understand the point being made. Otherwise, shut the hell up. I try to be nice and get along, but damn, if you don't want to afford the same respect, I can be an ass hole too.

 

[jakez4ut]

Cringe.



But in a good way. Lol

 

[DarthVol1]

Spoken like someone in way over his head and not going to be around much longer.

 

[Weezer]

Celebrate the good? I rarely see that here. At least not from those who do most of the complaining. And that's the point some refuse to see.

In fact, I'd be willing to bet that as they were reading this they were ready to retort something like, "that's because we rarely have anything to celebrate." They just don't see the good. And again, that's the point.

Then address those people, not me, with your complaints. I celebrate the good and complain about the bad. If you haven't seen that from me, then you're obviously selective in which of my posts you read.

 

[Weezer]

NIL has changed recruiting completely. You can be a great recruiter in the old system, and get no one. You can be a poor recruiter today and get 5 stars. NIL is now the only thing that matters. You can't even judge your head coach on recruiting. It's not his fault if the NIL for his program isn't good enough.

Exactly. But you're not allowed to say, "we're struggling with recruiting". Somehow, that's seen as being over negative. What's funny is that many of the people who "liked" your post are the same ones who get mad when you mention we're struggling in recruiting. Hell, I keep saying it's not really on the coaches, that there are other circumstances at play, yet people just want to get offended.

 

[Dooby15]

 

[backdoorcutvol]

This and a salary Cap on NIL
Max 50k for freshmen
100k for sophomores
200k for Juniors
500k for seniors
Recruits that haven’t even seen a college field have zero business making 6-7 figures..

Disagree what few people that will work most don’t make 50,000 why should a football player

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

 

[therickbol]

Memphis administration might feel like they have no choice to keep him because of who he is to them. But they got no choice but to take their medicine and admit they made a massive mistake. You can't keep trotting Penny out there. It's embarrassing to the program. I mean don't get me wrong....I love to see it! But it's bad....like ugly bad over there.

 

[BleedorangeinGA]

A presser of a thousand fired coaches. He gone.

 

[VolGee4]

A presser of a thousand fired coaches. He gone.

I don’t think they will fire him yet, but he may just leave on his own.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Cringe.



But in a good way. Lol

 

[lilesrt]

Someone's gonna post "Does anyone know if Tillman is going to come back?" after Tillman's first catch this coming season.

I just hope he comes back.

 

[Weezer]

Wasn’t Anthony Richardson supposed to be a hot commodity? Why didn’t he enter the portal??

Hopefully USC or Oklahoma wins that battle. Don't want him in the SEC.

 

[drvenner]

So what..nobody ever proved an accusation against him of betting against his team.

Going to drop it because this has been debated for years and we are not going to change any minds. Respect you still and ready to move on.

 

[drvenner]

Absolutely terrible look. Making weak assed excuses.

 

[Orangeredblooded]

Hey hey, me too! Though I’m 26… got you by a year. We’re expecting our first in a few months.

Scared to death, but trusting God to provide!

Good grandparents, it’s all in the bank.

 

[butchna]

Hopefully USC or Oklahoma wins that battle. Don't want him in the SEC.

Goes to UGA and sits.

 

[SweetasSoda]

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[OrangenSC]

Then address those people, not me, with your complaints. I celebrate the good and complain about the bad. If you haven't seen that from me, then you're obviously selective in which of my posts you read.

I'm sorry, you're right. I should have said IN the post that it wasn't directed at you. I was just responding generally to what you posted.

 

[Orange.]

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I really almost hope he is too special to fire, the media is offended, and he is too vain to resign.

 

[gordonr24]

I get irritated at Barnes sometimes for his stubbornness and wish he’d be more adaptable, but I’m thankful every day that he’s representing our university and not someone like Penny Hardaway.