Bama and UGA RE: Portal

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Am I alone in being surprised at how many guys are entering the portal from these programs? A month ago I would have agree with many that programs with turmoil or that were losing a lot would lose more talent. But a lot of talented guys seem to be leaving these two elite programs.

Thoughts on why?
 
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Seems to me this is the "evening things out" aspect of the portal.

For a year or two now, the narrative has been that "the rich will continue to get richer," both through NIL and the portal.

But these things have an ability to cut both ways.

Certainly the teams vying for a national title year after year do have a natural advantage signing more than their share of 5* and 4* talent. But keeping that talent from going somewhere else for playing time--remember, these are lads who are accustomed to playing all game long as leaders of their respective high school teams--that's more of a challenge.

So the rich get a little poorer, and the rest of the crowded field gain some riches.

Seems to be a nice balancing mechanism.


p.s. You're not alone in being a bit surprised at it, SJT. I was, as well, though it makes perfect sense.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Seems to me this is the "evening things out" aspect of the portal.

For a year or two now, the narrative has been that "the rich will continue to get richer," both through NIL and the portal.

But these things have an ability to cut both ways.

Certainly the teams vying for a national title year after year do have a natural advantage signing more than their share of 5* and 4* talent. But keeping that talent from going somewhere else for playing time--remember, these are lads who are accustomed to playing all game long as leaders of their respective high school teams--that's more of a challenge.

So the rich get a little poorer, and the rest of the crowded field gain some riches.

Seems to be a nice balancing mechanism.


p.s. You're not alone in being a bit surprised at it, SJT. I was, as well, though it makes perfect sense.
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Agree.

The folks saying that some of the transfers are guys who have been waiting on their chance for a while and decided to give up are right IMO. However I think those guys may be the most critical. The thing that sets the top 3-5 programs apart right now is depth. These guys who are now leaving could have been 3 or 4 on the depth chart... then become a competent or better starter due to injury. If they're gone then those program have to play less talented guys or less developed, younger guys. IMO that makes them a lot more vulnerable to having their season derailed by injury.
 
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tnutater said:
I doubt Saban or Smart lose any player they wish to keep.
Give em a raise and blow smoke up their butt about future playing time.
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There's a lot more to that calculation. Imagine you are a talented former 4/5* guy who is struggling to find your niche in UGA's system. You are an ILB and believe you have NFL talent. As important as winning is... you want to get your best shot at being drafted too. You look around the SEC and see UT with a wide open opportunity to start immediately at MLB. Do you move or do you risk your chance never coming at UGA?
 
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The Pied Portal People from Bama and Gawgea are going elsewhere cause they can't start there.

Sadly, most of them could start for us, yet we STILL can't port em here.

Not sure if the rumors about our purported self-imposed scholarship limits are at cause, but this is frustrating that we're not doing well in the portal.

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i mean i dont get it. if i was getting recruited by a school that had 6, 4-5 star athletes at my position then i'm probably not going to go there. don't get me wrong i'm all for some competition, but i can also see the writing on the wall
 
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The way I see it, you have to look at the turtle from both sides. The head is the star ranking, but many believe because they have a higher ranking they can auto slide into any program. The tail is learning that's not so true. Many of these guys are learning where they actually fit in, and it's not always what they were told.
 
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sjt18 said:
There's a lot more to that calculation. Imagine you are a talented former 4/5* guy who is struggling to find your niche in UGA's system. You are an ILB and believe you have NFL talent. As important as winning is... you want to get your best shot at being drafted too. You look around the SEC and see UT with a wide open opportunity to start immediately at MLB. Do you move or do you risk your chance never coming at UGA?
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Pre-Madonnas gonna Pre-Madonna.
At some point players realize they are not NFL level.
Players that leave prestigious programs for teams like Arkansas State or Tennessee are closer to that point.
NFL talent sees the field. Even at Alabama and Georgia.
 
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tnutater said:
Pre-Madonnas gonna Pre-Madonna.
At some point players realize they are not NFL level.
Players that leave prestigious programs for teams like Arkansas State or Tennessee are closer to that point.
NFL talent sees the field. Even at Alabama and Georgia.
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Interesting that a UT fan would make that equivalency... but you're wrong. Lots of guys have seen the inside of those programs and decided to try for a more sure thing. They believe, and many likely are, that they're NFL caliber. A year ago VT fans would have assumed that Hooker wasn't an NFL caliber player who was just looking for easier competition.
 
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Sanders is the only one Bama is losing with a high ceiling. It's not like the top teams are losing starters. The other end of the coin is the top teams also cherry pick the top guys in the portal so in reality they prob come out better. Bama pulled the top LB and receiver last year. They've already pulled an all American corner from lsu. We're not pulling any so the portal isn't the saving grace many on here believe. I expect A&M will have a lot in the portal next year.
 
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sjt18 said:
Interesting that a UT fan would make that equivalency... but you're wrong. Lots of guys have seen the inside of those programs and decided to try for a more sure thing. They believe, and many likely are, that they're NFL caliber. A year ago VT fans would have assumed that Hooker wasn't an NFL caliber player who was just looking for easier competition.
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Hooker is not an NFL level quarterback.
If he was, he would be in the next draft. He is betting on the come, hoping to impress for a possible shot after next year. I truly hope he balls out next year and gets picked in the high rounds. Seems like a nice guy and is a great representative of the UT program.
 
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tnutater said:
Pre-Madonnas gonna Pre-Madonna.
At some point players realize they are not NFL level.
Players that leave prestigious programs for teams like Arkansas State or Tennessee are closer to that point.
NFL talent sees the field. Even at Alabama and Georgia.
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For the love of Neyland’s khakis, people, it’s prima donna. And what the hell kind of UT fan compares us to Arkansas State? That you, Butch?
 
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UGA's portal players
Lovaesa Carroll - Signed as a RB, converted to CB. Recruited over.
Ameer Speed - CB. Grad transfer to Michigan State. Really fast, started a few games.
Latavius Brini - Safety. Brings the wood. Can't cover. Was exposed in the SECCG.
Jalen Johnson - Walk on WR. Decent player who got PT.
Jalen Kimber. Highly recruited DB. Has been injured his entire career. Surprised he is in the portal.
Justin Robinson - 4 star WR. Great tools, can't catch.
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
For the love of Neyland’s khakis, people, it’s prima donna. And what the hell kind of UT fan compares us to Arkansas State? That you, Butch?
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You a newby?
Pre-Madonna , pocket presents , and the like are a VolNation standard.
The comparison was used to show that everybody sucks hind teat talent wise to the big boys of college ball.
 
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tnutater said:
Hooker is not an NFL level quarterback.
If he was, he would be in the next draft. He is betting on the come, hoping to impress for a possible shot after next year. I truly hope he balls out next year and gets picked in the high rounds. Seems like a nice guy and is a great representative of the UT program.
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Exactly. This is the weakest QB class in a long time and at best he would be a late round pick. If he had graded out good he'd be stupid to come back. He needs to put up some awesome numbers this year and even then I'm not sure. They look more at potential than stats
 
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