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Michigan sees record number of COVID-19 patients in hospitals already at breaking point

Several weeks ago when everyone was downplaying Omicron as mild "cold-like" illness. All you needed to see were the estimates on how contagious it was.

It doesn't matter how mild the illness is when millions of people are contracting it every single day. Give enough people the common cold and our healthcare system will feel the strain. How lethal the virus is becomes irrelevant when it starts clogging up the hospitals and taking the spaces from people with other health conditions. There will be thousands of deaths indirectly caused by Omicron from people who can't get the necessary medical attention for unrelated diseases.

What we're seeing right now is a tragedy. No one will take precautions because individual risk is low, but from a community perspective, this variant poses as great a threat as ever.
 
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mad4vols said:
Michigan sees record number of COVID-19 patients in hospitals already at breaking point

Several weeks ago when everyone was downplaying Omicron as mild "cold-like" illness. All you needed to see were the estimates on how contagious it was.

It doesn't matter how mild the illness is when millions of people are contracting it every single day. Give enough people the common cold and our healthcare system will feel the strain. How lethal the virus is becomes irrelevant when it starts clogging up the hospitals and taking the spaces from people with other health conditions. There will be thousands of deaths indirectly caused by Omicron from people who can't get the necessary medical attention for unrelated diseases.

What we're seeing right now is a tragedy. No one will take precautions because individual risk is low, but from a community perspective, this variant poses as great a threat as ever.
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Yawn.
 
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mad4vols said:
Michigan sees record number of COVID-19 patients in hospitals already at breaking point

Several weeks ago when everyone was downplaying Omicron as mild "cold-like" illness. All you needed to see were the estimates on how contagious it was.

It doesn't matter how mild the illness is when millions of people are contracting it every single day. Give enough people the common cold and our healthcare system will feel the strain. How lethal the virus is becomes irrelevant when it starts clogging up the hospitals and taking the spaces from people with other health conditions. There will be thousands of deaths indirectly caused by Omicron from people who can't get the necessary medical attention for unrelated diseases.

What we're seeing right now is a tragedy. No one will take precautions because individual risk is low, but from a community perspective, this variant poses as great a threat as ever.
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The number of people hospitalized with COVID-19 reached record levels on Monday.

For the first time since the start of the pandemic, more than 5,000 people were in hospitals statewide with confirmed or suspected cases of COVID-19, according to the latest data from the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services.
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luthervol said:
lol.......I think so as well.
The supreme court has to interpret it and see which of us is correct in our clear understanding of the straightforward meaning.
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It’s been almost 250 years, there’s really nothing to interpret when the people that wrote it said exactly what it is.
 
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luthervol said:
If political views don't matter, then why were you trumpers so excited about Trump appointing judges?
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That he was appointing the ones that didnt make political judgements.

Not saying that's the case, just pointing out that is a viable option.

And given this boards reactions to the new SC justices recently, it sounds like at least some of them arent complete political hacks in favor of Trumpism.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Thanks.

And did they (CDC) say anything about this? Press release or anything, or just made the change and went about their business?
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I did not hear a thing. I only found out when someone asked me about it and I believed it to be "fake news," so I researched it. We were never taught this NEW definition of vaccines before. And, I certainly don't explain vaccines to my patients in such a manner.

This is why many of us have decided to call the mRNA shots something else, but not vaccines.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I did not hear a thing. I only found out when someone asked me about it and I believed it to be "fake news," so I researched it. We were never taught this NEW definition of vaccines before. And, I certainly don't explain vaccines to my patients in such a manner.

This is why many of us have decided to call the mRNA shots something else, but not vaccines.
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What term did you settle on?
 
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85SugarVol said:
What term did you settle on?
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I'm just calling them "shots." Therapeutic is really more of a treatment for an ailment. The current evidence shows that they work to decrease the risk of hospitalization/death with prior variants. Of course, this would require the subject to have an appreciable risk (not true for children and young/healthy adults). So, more of a preventive treatment.

The jury is still out with this new strain, as severe illness and deaths lag by a week or two...
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I'm just calling them "shots." Therapeutic is really more of a treatment for an ailment. The current evidence shows that they work to decrease the risk of hospitalization/death with prior variants. Of course, this would require the subject to have an appreciable risk (not true for children and young/healthy adults). So, more of a preventive treatment.

The jury is still out with this new strain, as severe illness and deaths lag by a week or two...
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I guess I consider it more a prophylaxis. Like taking atavoquone or doxy if going somewhere where malaria is prevalent. May not completely eliminate the risk, but reduces the risk. But if you’re not really at risk, then is the prophylaxis necessary?
 
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newyorkvol said:
I guess I consider it more a prophylaxis. Like taking atavoquone or doxy if going somewhere where malaria is prevalent. May not completely eliminate the risk, but reduces the risk. But if you’re not really at risk, then is the prophylaxis necessary?
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Bingo, although those really prevent you from contracting and transmitting the parasite. So, still not exactly the same.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I did not hear a thing. I only found out when someone asked me about it and I believed it to be "fake news," so I researched it. We were never taught this NEW definition of vaccines before. And, I certainly don't explain vaccines to my patients in such a manner.

This is why many of us have decided to call the mRNA shots something else, but not vaccines.
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I think I'm a bit dense. What is the significant difference between the old and new definition? Is it the use of the term "product"?
 
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