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#113,926
Orangeslice13 said:
And yet the infectious disease dr we see often says the exact opposite of your antidotal examples. And he does it with studies.

he isn’t part of some vast dumbass conspiracy either. If he was he would not have told us earlier this week that neither natural immunity or the vaccine are providing protection against the Omni variant. He would have lied and said the vaccine was working still. But that’s not what the studies say. He also would not be telling us the Omni variant is doing the opposite by providing protection vs the more serious variants.
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Fauci has lied consistently and has refused to admit he’s wrong. He’s changed the threshold of vaccination for herd immunity numerous times. It was 60% then 70% and now who knows where the number is. He never told the public there would be a need for 3 shots because he thought 2 was enough. Now we know 3 doesn’t stop it. He still consistently says we need to get vaccinated and boosted to end this thing. If we had 100% vaccination we’d still have it circulating, we would just have less people with co-morbidities dying from it.
 
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AthensVol2007 said:
Fauci has lied consistently and has refused to admit he’s wrong. He’s changed the threshold of vaccination for herd immunity numerous times. It was 60% then 70% and now who knows where the number is. He never told the public there would be a need for 3 shots because he thought 2 was enough. Now we know 3 doesn’t stop it. He still consistently says we need to get vaccinated and boosted to end this thing. If we had 100% vaccination we’d still have it circulating, we would just have less people with co-morbidities dying from it.
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All you have to do is look at places like Iceland, Singapore, Israel and Gibraltar to see how effective these jabs are at stopping the spread and protecting the victims from infection.
 
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#113,929
volbeast33 said:
The vaccine isn’t fool proof…. It’s just a tool to help prevent spread and serious illness…. I feel that being vaccinated lessens the viral load on the individual and therefore doesn’t make the person as sick that you may spread it too.
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Except Fauci and others have said with Delta the vaccinated carried at minimum an equal viral load.

“This study showed that the impact of vaccination on community transmission of circulating variants of SARS-CoV-2 appeared to be not significantly different from the impact among unvaccinated people.
2,
3 The scientific rationale for mandatory vaccination in the USA relies on the premise that vaccination prevents transmission to others, resulting in a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”.
4 Yet, the demonstration of COVID-19 breakthrough infections among fully vaccinated health-care workers (HCW) in Israel, who in turn may transmit this infection to their patients,
5requires a reassessment of compulsory vaccination policies leading to the job dismissal of unvaccinated HCW in the USA. Indeed, there is growing evidence that peak viral titres in the upper airways of the lungs and culturable virus are similar in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.2,3,5–7 A recent investigation by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of an outbreak of COVID-19 in a prison in Texas showed the equal presence of infectious virus in the nasopharynx of vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.
6 Similarly, researchers in California observed no major differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in terms of SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in the nasopharynx, even in those with proven asymptomatic infection.”
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
let me stop you right there.
Fauci is irrelevant to our conversation. I don’t listen to him and neither do our Drs. We’re going with facts from studies not what some political figure is spinning.
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I thought that’s who you’re referring to when you said our infectious disease expert
 
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#113,939
FallCreekVols said:
Just like a "drug dog" at a civil asset forfeiture roadside search, the dog can be trained to alert whenever the handler wants it to.
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Nope, it’s not like that.

The dogs come to the schools weekly and work to detect cases in empty classrooms, auditoriums, cafeterias and gymnasiums, Mederiros said. If Covid is detected, the authorities tell the health nurse who relays the information to the people affected.
When he first had the idea of bringing the dogs into the school, he wanted to assure parents and community members they were not going to line up all the kids and have the dogs go up and down the line.
"They come while students are in school, it's really not disruptive or intimidating," Medeiros said. "These were not drug sniffing dogs."
 
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#113,941
AthensVol2007 said:
I thought that’s who you’re referring to when you said our infectious disease expert
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Since when is Fauci an infectious disease Dr. (I said Dr not expert) who I could speak with earlier this week and review studies with? And when has he ever said anything I just climbed my Dr said? If I wasn’t clear that we (the Red Women and I ) were at her Drs appointment when these things happened then I apologize.

Edit: Nope, it’s right there in the first sentence of my post.
“The infectious disease Dr we see……”
 
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mad4vols said:
Nope, it’s not like that.

The dogs come to the schools weekly and work to detect cases in empty classrooms, auditoriums, cafeterias and gymnasiums, Mederiros said. If Covid is detected, the authorities tell the health nurse who relays the information to the people affected.
When he first had the idea of bringing the dogs into the school, he wanted to assure parents and community members they were not going to line up all the kids and have the dogs go up and down the line.
"They come while students are in school, it's really not disruptive or intimidating," Medeiros said. "These were not drug sniffing dogs."
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Medeiros huffs glue.
I cannot imagine how disruptive it would be if there was a dog casually trotting around in my classroom.
 
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mad4vols said:
They are in classrooms when they are empty.
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You mean during the five- or ten-minute window between each class in schools where students change classes multiple times a day?
Edit: Does that mean I can stop sanitizing 15-20 desks four times a day? Can the dogs pick it up after I sanitize? I have questions for people who have all the answers.
 
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mad4vols said:
If you see violent conspiracy theorists call for violence against doctors and hospitals, you can report them to the FBI

Submit a Tip — FBI

If you see someone in your area talk about their plans to murder doctors or other healthcare workers, etc, tip the FBI with the link above. You can also report those who make and encourage such violence in videos as well. We have been seeing that violent conspiracy theorists are planning and encouraging terrorism against hospitals. There have been extremists and shooters who were stopped before they carried out their violent plans because they were reported to the FBI. You may be saving lives by reporting violent conspiracy theorists and extremists who are planning to commit violence to the FBI
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Lol how dumb
 
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#113,950
Orangeslice13 said:
Since when is Fauci an infectious disease Dr. (I said Dr not expert) who I could speak with earlier this week and review studies with? And when has he ever said anything I just climbed my Dr said? If I wasn’t clear that we (the Red Women and I ) were at her Drs appointment when these things happened then I apologize.

Edit: Nope, it’s right there in the first sentence of my post.
“The infectious disease Dr we see……”
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This is the post I responded to…
Orangeslice13 said:
And yet the infectious disease dr we see often says the exact opposite of your antidotal examples. And he does it with studies.

he isn’t part of some vast dumbass conspiracy either. If he was he would not have told us earlier this week that neither natural immunity or the vaccine are providing protection against the Omni variant. He would have lied and said the vaccine was working still. But that’s not what the studies say. He also would not be telling us the Omni variant is doing the opposite by providing protection vs the more serious variants.
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I mistakenly took the “infectious disease doctor we see” to mean “we” as in society. Hence my Fauci comment, seeing as how we all see him on a daily basis in print or on tv. Nothing about your wife in that post, so my mistake.
 
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