Ahmad Moten better than Nolen

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Rickyvol77 said:
Lol do some research. Nolan’s parents came to Knoxville area to go to maryville or Catholic but Powell paid them more
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How much did powell pay? And was it Maryville or Catholic? Did he smoke weed like Redmond? What did CJH tell you about him? Coach Garner? Mr all knowing
 
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swampfoxfan said:
How much did powell pay? And was it Maryville or Catholic? Did he smoke weed like Redmond? What did CJH tell you about him? Coach Garner? Mr all knowing
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A brand new car for Mrs Nolan provided by Potts himself. They also paid the Nolan’s “rent”
 
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DaddyChad said:
You know the stars are adjusted dependent on which program lands a player right? Pretty easy to bet a player at Bama will be a pro one day, etc.
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If your argument is that players only get 5 stars because they go to Bama then it's obvious you don't keep up with recruiting or understand the ranking system.... Which is fine, it's boring stuff. But if you want to learn more and get an education on how the recruiting ranking system works DM me. Let's discuss it.
 
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Hairy Vols said:
If your argument is that players only get 5 stars because they go to Bama then it's obvious you don't keep up with recruiting or understand the ranking system.... Which is fine, it's boring stuff. But if you want to learn more and get an education on how the recruiting ranking system works DM me. Let's discuss it.
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What’s there to discuss? I’ve followed recruiting since the days of Scout, then Rivals, then 247. I’ve seen many a bump just bc of an offer from a school like Ohio State, or Bama, or Georgia, etc. I’m not saying Bama lands all 5 star players; I am however saying that these sites rank recruits by committable offers and often also give bumps by what school they commit to. I think there is sufficient evidence of this if you follow recruiting as much as you claim to.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Yep. Don't know if Moten is better or not, but theres more than just talent involved. There's also effort and fit that go along with talent. I can't imagine the hours Garner and the other coaches keep. Job plus recruiting is a load and very time consuming. If I'm a position coach, the last thing I want to deal with is a lazy prima donna. Even if I had the time to try and bring the best out of a player like that, there's no guarantee you can reach that inner fire and ignite it. Instead, I'm gonna look for kids that love the game and have that drive to compete. Makes my life and job much easier. I have a very hard time seeing Nolan coming to UT to play for Rodney Garner. That makes Moten far more likely to wear orange IMO.
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Ya. This for sure. You need elite talent but you also need elite work ethic, dedication, and I’d even say high level intelligence is really important. The one additional factor necessary is a bit of luck…you can’t succeed if you’re injured all the time. Anyway, when you look at the kids recruiting rankings it’s all physical attributes. That’s it. They dont try to project any of those other necessary ingredients. So many times when the kids get into that 5 star status and start getting a ton of attention you start to worry are they going to be as hungry and motivated as others. And when a kid like Nolan gets absolutely obsessed with the attention and then turns down a chance to go play with hands down the most accomplished dline coach maybe in college football history (in your own back yard no less) in favor of what basically has to be guaranteed $$$$ as they even just lost their defensive coordinator…it kinda softens the blow a bit. Because even though Nolan has all the physical attributes you just have to question all the other necessary components. I’d be shocked if he ends up being a game changer.
 
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DaddyChad said:
What’s there to discuss? I’ve followed recruiting since the days of Scout, then Rivals, then 247. I’ve seen many a bump just bc of an offer from a school like Ohio State, or Bama, or Georgia, etc. I’m not saying Bama lands all 5 star players; I am however saying that these sites rank recruits by committable offers and often also give bumps by what school they commit to. I think there is sufficient evidence of this if you follow recruiting as much as you claim to.
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Those bumps however are based on player quality. If that was true, if a player committed to a lesser school would they lose a grade? Wouldn't that also mean historically good teams bumps would be false fallacies?
 
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Hairy Vols said:
Those bumps however are based on player quality. If that was true, if a player committed to a lesser school would they lose a grade? Wouldn't that also mean historically good teams bumps would be false fallacies?
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Not necessarily on dropping player rankings if they commit to a lesser school. But yeah generally Bama players get a bump in rankings. Rivals was pretty bad and has generally went downhill since some scouts left for 247. You could probably find an article a few years ago about them ranking a made up player.
 
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If he picks a team other than Tennessee, is he still better than Nolen?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He was inconsequential. After an early locker room fight was hushed away, and he took himself out of playing multiple times a game when he wanted to, the only toxicity left was his mom getting a new car and house courtesy of coach and the Potts lol
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Yes he was so "inconsequential" that Powell high school won its first state football championship. I wonder why Nick Saban offered him a scholarship? I guess he doesn't know anything about high school talent? As for Maryville offering him all this money you speak of, that is absolute BS.
 
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stillavol said:
Yes he was so "inconsequential" that Powell high school won its first state football championship. I wonder why Nick Saban offered him a scholarship? I guess he doesn't know anything about high school talent? As for Maryville offering him all this money you speak of, that is absolute BS.
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I have first hand knowledge that it’s true. Just like I am 100% right about the Potts taking care of his parents
 
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ACvol3 said:
There were plenty of people on here trashing Nolen after seeing him play in East TN this season. That’s when ppl thought UT would land him.
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There was actually a lot of discussion about him when they thought he might come to UT. He may turn out to be great, but he certainly didn’t earn his ranking by his play.
 
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