NIL will kill the NFL

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The Original Fade said:
CEOs of large multimillion corporations are about to figure out that they can buy national championships for their Alma maters by simply paying NFL money to blue chip recruits, even more.

And if you’re that blue chip player making 10 mil + per season at XYZ university, why would you go to the NFL for probably less money and the risk of permanent injury when you can walk away from college with 40 mil in your pocket?

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LOl no... just no. I have said this before when NIL was first announced. Initially, there will be some crazy deals thrown around as folks test the waters and limits of the system. But, outside of a few outlier cases, there will be very few guys making millions via NIL. Secondly, this won't affect the NFL at all because once they finish their college eligibility there arent realistic options. NIL just moves the money from under the table to over it.. it won't really change the amounts spent.. it will just be in the open.
 
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The entire idea of NIL money is complete BS in my opinion. I'm not gullible enough to believe that dudes haven't been getting paid under the table at major college programs. They have been forever, and regardless of the NIL money that is now the thing in college athletics they would have continued to get "paid" in the future. College football has had a problem with peddling dirty money by big money boosters for a long time. They just made it legal and public now. This may be an old school take on this, but I have twins that will be heading to college next year and believe me, I am acutely aware of the expenses of sending a child off to school. The majority of these kids were already on full-ride scholarships which equates to them getting paid upwards of $100,000 each with tuition and fees over 4 years. In my opinion, if you want to take the NIL deal, fine, take it. In return, there needs to be some sort of rule stating that the same amount of your scholarship money up to an equal amount of your NIL deal will be redistributed outside of the athletic department to other students that otherwise would have no other choice but take out loans for their tuition. My children are getting turned down for financial aid because they made too much money at Chic-fil-A and Starbucks as 17 year olds busting their ass to try and help themselves. If you are making enough money from NIL to go out and get a new 14 carat gold grill in your mouth, new car, gold chains, etc. then you have enough money to pay your own damn tuition and fees. Again, just my humble opinion.
 
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pimo1 said:
NIL just moves the money from under the table to over it.. it won't really change the amounts spent.. it will just be in the open.
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Actually, it really won't be in the "open", it can be in the "open" but generally its not in the open at all. We're not talking NIL money, we're talking compensation from whatever for whatever see Alston, at this point.

Places in Texas have big time money sports fans, so to say their won't be serious movement would an understatement - they're just getting going.
 
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For starters, why not kill the eligibility requirements for the NFL draft? If you think you can go to the NFL straight out of high school, knock yourself out. After your freshman year? Go nuts. Works for basketball. There's like 10,000+ young men playing D1 football, and the NFL draft takes ~260 of them each year. And the 18-year-olds who are ready developmentally to compete with NFL players are probably wildly few and far between... they're not going anywhere 'til the NFL says there's a reason to. Clowney probably could have gone. Anyway, one surefire way to say "you're not worth minimum contract NFL money... yet" is to let the NFL decide whether they want you yet or not. Seems like that'd at least shape the way people are throwing money at Prime Time's new cornerback.
 
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volzfanupnorth said:
If you are making enough money from NIL to go out and get a new 14 carat gold grill in your mouth, new car, gold chains, etc. then you have enough money to pay your own damn tuition and fees. Again, just my humble opinion.
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A school doesn't have to offer athletic scholarships at all, if you are the board of UT you could move the board to get rid of scholarships.

Of course, I would think that would greatly impact Tennessee's ability to compete.
 
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This vastly overestimates the appeal of the college football player in marketing. NIL will not affect the NFL at all.

Hasn't this already been discussed in a previous thread?
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
That would also mean going back to when college football and basketball weren't billion dollar industries that made colleges and coaches a lot of money. You seem to be blaming the athletes for the place it's in now.....they didn't start this.
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No, not my intention to blame anyone. Just saying it was more pure and for the love of the game when the athletes where playing for a school because they wanted to be there in place of just for the up front money. I know it will never go back and I know it is only fair to pay the players sense the coaches are getting rich along with the other people proffiting off of there work. I was just stating that I liked it when it was for a school and an education. I think the players now should get as much as they can while they can.
 
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The Original Fade said:
The fallacy in your argument is that the only reason there are more 3* players in the NFL is because there are simply more 3* players coming out of high school.
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No. That has nothing to do with it.

How many 3 stars are going to get NIL deals while in college?

Marketability is key to those lucrative NIL deals- "hype". Timing as well. Quinn Ewers got that deal based off hype. He didn't even have to play yet to get that type of opportunity

The talented 3 star won't often times get pub until he's 3 years in. By then he can stay another year or go pro because he's been balling since his freshman year.

So no. It's absolutely not going to kill the NFL. And yesz they will still be mostly 3 stars. And all the 4 stars THAT PAN OUT, won't be guaranteed to get that 7 figure NIL money either. Because all of the booster in support of each school don't operate the same.

More IMPORTANTLY the NFL is just a better product and will always be the goal for money oriented star players...
 
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The only thing the NIL could do is delay kids from going to the NFL for a year or two at most. Like Cade said if he got an NIL deal for 4th round money then he would stay. You still can only play 4-5 years in college anyway though. I still expect the top guys to go to the draft because you can focus fully on football instead of at least part of your time on school. And most likely the money you'll make in the NFL will still be more than you'd make on an NIL deal.
 
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VolBricks said:
Ding. Ding, Ding, Winner, Winner, Chicken dinner. This is exactly what needs to happen but never will. Why would the NFL spend the money on a farm system when it gets the players for free now?

I do think there are regulations coming down the pike for all of this NIL money. There has to be caps put in place or rich boosters could buy championships for their universities. That is the reason for salary caps in the NFL if not billionaires would just buy championships.
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The antitrust laws likely say otherwise. Does “collusion” ring a bell?

Pro leagues get an exemption because they negotiate with players unions. Right now, that’s not the case in college football.
 
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The one thing that’s for sure about NIL is NOTHING! It’s in an infancy stage and much more will shake out in time. I know it looks ominous now with schools like Texas floating pay for play schemes but the overall health of college football can’t end with that scenario. I believe schools will cooperate and come up with guidelines to level the playing field somewhat. The alternative is not sustainable.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Naive much? Players have been getting paid for decades. It's just in the open now. Players have been avoiding classes and still getting credit for decades too.

The major teams need to align with the NFL and end the ruse of the "student athlete" once and for all.

College football survives at lesser schools, elite programs still pull in major TV money, the NFL has a farm system, and life goes on.
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Players getting paid for decades????? NO WAY! I think the point has sailed over your head.
 
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Just to be brutal honest...it won't move my emotions meter one spot if the NIL puts the NFL out of business.
 
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BearCat204 said:
I don’t know if directing all the good talent out of college football would be a great thing for the product. JMO
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College football fans go to support their teams, regardless of talent. See South Carolina for example. Thats the biggest difference between pro ball and college ball. Are you really going to stop watching UT football because a few 5 stars arent on the team? Youll still have plenty of good/great players. Its just that the vast majority of them will want to attain an education. This whole facade of amateur athletics is a joke. Give the kids that have ZERO desire to further their academics another path to the NFL.
 
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jeff1vol said:
College football fans go to support their teams, regardless of talent. See South Carolina for example. Thats the biggest difference between pro ball and college ball. Are you really going to stop watching UT football because a few 5 stars arent on the team? Youll still have plenty of good/great players. Its just that the vast majority of them will want to attain an education. This whole facade of amateur athletics is a joke. Give the kids that have ZERO desire to further their academics another path to the NFL.
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Who said I would stop watching? Are you suggesting that if the majority of the top level talent leaves the sport, that the product will not suffer?
 
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The Original Fade said:
CEOs of large multimillion corporations are about to figure out that they can buy national championships for their Alma maters by simply paying NFL money to blue chip recruits, even more.

And if you’re that blue chip player making 10 mil + per season at XYZ university, why would you go to the NFL for probably less money and the risk of permanent injury when you can walk away from college with 40 mil in your pocket?

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One thought-----you need to up your medication dosage------the NFL will be just fine
 
#123
#123
The Original Fade said:
Would you go to the NFL as a round 1 pick if you walked away from college with 40-50 mil? I would not.
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Yes, because you won't walk away with that amount of $$. It will be half that at the most. As a 1st rounder, you go and play 3 - 5 years (play out first contract) and then quit.
 
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This is such a dumb take it’s barely worth responding to but I’ll bite anyway.

The NFL is immensely more popular than college FB. It’s not really close. In the North East where the vast majority of the population lives college FB is barely an afterthought. Anyone looking to sponsor an athlete is going to look at Pro athletes for maximum exposure for their brand. Business with that kinda money aren’t doing it to prop up a team, they are doing it to sell their product.

Plus pro athletes get paid by their franchise AND endorsements. Why would young men forfeit that?
 
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