NIL will kill the NFL

[RDU VOL#14]

It would open up the talent pool for the NFL, lots of talented players out there that can't get into school or through JC. On the college side it would get the kids out of the college game that have no business being in college or just don't want to go to college. Opening up spaces for more kids.

I see what you’re saying, but I don’t know how much people would support it . Every time there is a lower level pro league it falls apart in the first year or 2.

 

[hog88]

We love football and a certain state school. The average CEO cares about neither.

I wouldn't say that. Many do care but they didn't get to where they are by pissing away money.

 

[Mose Phillip's Watch]

The NIL is the Wild West right now. There will more than likely be some guidance on the left and right limits in the near future.

I don't see any limits put on it

 

[Orange_Crush]

Unless they give unlimited eligibility to CFB players, it will not kill the NFL.

Fewer players leaving early != death to NFL.

 

[LSU-SIU]

The ROI is what happens on the field. These NIL deals have zero to do with improving the individual business

Exactly.

99% of college players have zero real value for their image. Nobody cares about that. Its about pay for play.

I am still baffled why everyone thinks its about NIL, the players can more or less receive compensation in any form and there isn't anything going to happen. If something does, I would expect someone to slap another injunction on the NCAA.

People sure are obsessed over the the letters N-I-L.

 

[butchna]

Never going to outspend the NFL. This option allows for players who need that extra season to boost their rating to make a sound decision…not borne of financial concern.

 

[hog88]

I see what you’re saying, but I don’t know how much people would support it . Every time there is a lower level pro league it falls apart in the first year or 2.

I don't think it could be self sufficient, maybe if they located the teams in towns without a major college presence some could survive. The NFL would have to look at it as an investment like the NBA D league.

 

[Firebirdparts]

Thoughts?

I'm glad it's not my money.

But in all seriousness, this is a dumb idea. It takes 22 people to play football, and there are 100 teams. I don't think there are going to be all that many 40-millionaires in that crowd. There could be 10 of them, yes, and the pore-ol'-NFL might be deprived of 10 people.

Beyond that, I am not qualified to comment. I already don't watch the NFL, so I don't know what it would take to get me to stop.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

This thread is destined for Thunderdome, aka the Politics Forum.

Yeah pretty much, I should have just ignored it. But I'm sick of every NFL thread these mouthbreathers coming in and saying the same crap they've said since 2016.

Nobody cares if you like the NFL anymore, and nobody cares why. I hate country music, but I don't go into country music threads every other day reminding everyone how much I hate country music.

 

[McDad]

I never said the vast majority will. The top talent could though, and if they opt out of the NFL then the league talent level will be diluted

Your premise is bad. Your prediction is bad. And they are bad based on historical data.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

The ONLY solution to this WHOLE problem is for the NFL to create a farm system and draft out of HS just like baseball. You dont want to go to class.... go to the NFDL. Get the PROS OUT of college athletics!!

Naive much? Players have been getting paid for decades. It's just in the open now. Players have been avoiding classes and still getting credit for decades too.

The major teams need to align with the NFL and end the ruse of the "student athlete" once and for all.

College football survives at lesser schools, elite programs still pull in major TV money, the NFL has a farm system, and life goes on.

 

[butchna]

I never said the vast majority will. The top talent could though, and if they opt out of the NFL then the league talent level will be diluted

If they’re NFL level talent, are you suggesting they would “opt out” of a NFL CAREER altogether and retire off of NIL earnings?

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Naive much? Players have been getting paid for decades. It's just in the open now. Players have been avoiding classes and still getting credit for decades too.

The major teams need to align with the NFL and end the ruse of the "student athlete" once and for all.

College football survives at lesser schools, elite programs still pull in major TV money, the NFL has a farm system, and life goes on.

This is the part I don't get, everyone and their brother has known about this but for some reason making it out in the open and "legal" suddenly it's going to kill college football and only the rich will get richer. It's a weird reaction IMO.

 

[Storm Shadow]

Would you go to the NFL as a round 1 pick if you walked away from college with 40-50 mil? I would not.

Zero college players will leave college with 40-50 mil. None.

 

[Vols4life]

The NFL cannot be killed.
CEOs are looking for ROI, carrying their alma mater's football program isn't a smart investment.
Blue chip recruits will not make 10M per year in the NIL NCAA.
Blue chip player who does well financially in college will burn through that money and still need the NFL money/
Only a small fraction of professional athletes walk away from the game with any significant money in their pocket.

Yep because people a lot of people are forgetting about taxes.....the players will have to account for the taxes on all this

 

[ETCvol4life]

The ONLY solution to this WHOLE problem is for the NFL to create a farm system and draft out of HS just like baseball. You dont want to go to class.... go to the NFDL. Get the PROS OUT of college athletics!!

That is what I have been saying for years. It would be nice for Collage ball to go back to the student athlete's who want and need a scholarship to get there education in place of just a spring board to the Pro's. It meant more when the players actually cared about the school they where playing for. And I know it is just my opinion and we all know what those are worth!

 

[The Original Fade]

Zero college players will leave college with 40-50 mil. None.

Jackson State now has a player with a $1 million deal and we’re just getting started.

 

[Carp]

CEOs of large multimillion corporations are about to figure out that they can buy national championships for their Alma maters by simply paying NFL money to blue chip recruits, even more.

And if you’re that blue chip player making 10 mil + per season at XYZ university, why would you go to the NFL for probably less money and the risk of permanent injury when you can walk away from college with 40 mil in your pocket?

Thoughts?

No one is paying NFL money to college players. Especially when there is no contract holding the kid to the school.

I don't know why people think rich people are going to all of sudden start spending more on college athletics than what they were before. These players were getting paid long before NIL deals. The NIL deals just track where that money is coming from.

 

[Carp]

with the rules that are currently in place, that is entirely legal and a real possibility

If this were true, why wouldn't Oregon be pulling every 5 star in sight? Nike isn't exactly shy about paying athletes money.

The truth is, even the super rich have a limit to what they are willing to offer for an "investment." There's simply no guarantee these players will be great and there is nothing to keep these kids from transferring out after 1 year.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

This is the part I don't get, everyone and their brother has known about this but for some reason making it out in the open and "legal" suddenly it's going to kill college football and only the rich will get richer. It's a weird reaction IMO.

Americans love to bitch about change.

I remember when cable TV was going to kill the local news networks and we'd have no local news in 5 years.

Jeez, people. Embrace change or start buying black and white TVs, stop using your cellphone, drive a manual transmission car, and shop only locally owned grocery stores.

You don't get to pick and choose change. It happens. Deal with it like an adult instead of a whiny 3yo "but you always read me a night night story......."

 

[Carp]

So let me get this straight....you think if NIL starts netting some players $10 million a year (which I'll believe it when I see it) that the NFL who has more money than God will go out of business because they can't compete?

Also you think the majority of 22 year olds who would bring in $10 million would simply just stop playing at 22, i.e. stop getting millions a year and leaving the potential of making millions just out there? That's quite a naive take.

Yup. If that were the case, why would anyone taken in the first 10 picks of the draft keep playing after their rookie contract? They are making a minimum of 20 coming out of college.

 

[landscapingvol]

CEOs of large multimillion corporations are about to figure out that they can buy national championships for their Alma maters by simply paying NFL money to blue chip recruits, even more.

And if you’re that blue chip player making 10 mil + per season at XYZ university, why would you go to the NFL for probably less money and the risk of permanent injury when you can walk away from college with 40 mil in your pocket?

Thoughts?

CEO's of multimillion dollar corporations make millions of dollars off of advertisement in the NFL, I would be surprised if they made a dime off of NIL deals at the NCAA level other than in local markets. This will burn out because in the end it is about businesses making money

 

[Carp]

I’m not underestimating how much people love money, but you are definitely overestimating how much these athletes love football.

Then why do so many players keep playing football after earning a fat paycheck? Certainly anyone taken in the first 10 picks has no incentive to keep playing past their rookie contract. Yet something like 90+% of players taken in the first 10 picks end up signing a 2nd contract....

 

[LSU-SIU]

If this were true, why wouldn't Oregon be pulling every 5 star in sight? Nike isn't exactly shy about paying athletes money.

The truth is, even the super rich have a limit to what they are willing to offer for an "investment." There's simply no guarantee these players will be great and there is nothing to keep these kids from transferring out after 1 year.

We don't know really know the extent Nike has dipped their toes in, but everyone knows what's going on down in Texas.

Either way, this is the new reality.

Personnally, I gave up on college sports years ago.

 

[Carp]

Jackson State now has a player with a $1 million deal and we’re just getting started.

Because Deon Sanders is their coach and he has ties to Barstool sports. And it's only 1 player. If you think Jackson State is going to start pulling several 5 star players a year, I got a bridge to sell you.

Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, has a limit to what they are willing to offer for a recruit who could easily leave just a few months after signing an NIL deal. I guarantee Ohio State boosters are regretting some of those Quinn Ewers NIL deals.