NCAA upcoming restrictions

[ER Vol]

So yes this is my first thread, but posted on here for a while. I have been out of the loop for a bit, so forgive if someone has already covered this topic.

I was talking to my LSU colleague and we came up with a theory about the NCAA restrictions and UT. UT came out with self imposed penalties, which did not include a post season bowl ban. The reason being that the players who would have been ruled ineligible has already transferred and by implementing a bowl we would be punishing players not involved in the said bad actions. So what that means is that Alabama, Texas A&M and Oklahoma took said players as part of their program. Since all those players have been in every game if they are ruled ineligible as players, then those schools must forfeit every game those players participated in.

Do you really think that the NCAA is going to void the season of Alabama, T A&M and Oklahoma? So I don't think we will get anything beyond what has already been done by UT. Would love to know what you all think.

Also a huge thanks to @London Vol for all the encouragement through my ordeal (and also his posts, he is straight up a really good dude).

 

[Raebo]

if we get hammered it will be for "lack of institutional control". Those responsible for the lack of control are gone so I don't know.

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

Yeah I am with you. Had the players went anywhere and not competed for championships it might be different. My guess is the NCAA will let it go as in old days might say give restitution. But with new NIL thwt would be easier than ever so they can punish the players and in reality little happens as those players probably have enough from their deals to cover the bags of cash they supposedly got here. I think everyone will be clear.

 

[TAF]

The NCAA is about 15 years overdue of being dismantled, set on fire, and never spoken of again.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

So yes this is my first thread, but posted on here for a while. I have been out of the loop for a bit, so forgive if someone has already covered this topic.

I was talking to my LSU colleague and we came up with a theory about the NCAA restrictions and UT. UT came out with self imposed penalties, which did not include a post season bowl ban. The reason being that the players who would have been ruled ineligible has already transferred and by implementing a bowl we would be punishing players not involved in the said bad actions. So what that means is that Alabama, Texas A&M and Oklahoma took said players as part of their program. Since all those players have been in every game if they are ruled ineligible as players, then those schools must forfeit every game those players participated in.

Do you really think that the NCAA is going to void the season of Alabama, T A&M and Oklahoma? So I don't think we will get anything beyond what has already been done by UT. Would love to know what you all think.

Also a huge thanks to @London Vol for all the encouragement through my ordeal (and also his posts, he is straight up a really good dude).

That's fine IF the NCAA or TN or the players informed other schools which of the numerous transfers were involved.

If other schools weren't informed, how could they be punished for taking players the NCAA allowed in the portal and let those schools sign?

I don't buy that it's relevant unless someone can prove Bama, OU, etc KNEW they were getting players who took money.

 

[ER Vol]

That's fine IF the NCAA or TN or the players informed other schools which of the numerous transfers were involved.

If other schools weren't informed, how could they be punished for taking players the NCAA allowed in the portal and let those schools sign?

I don't buy that it's relevant unless someone can prove Bama, OU, etc KNEW they were getting players who took money.[/QUOTE

I see your point, however the NCAA has had schools forfeit games when players who took money, with the school and coaches not knowing anything about it. For instance Ga Tech have to give up it's ACC Championship because a player sold his jersey for $200. This has happened to other schools as well. It's kind of all screwed up isn't it?

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I see your point, however the NCAA has had schools forfeit games when players who took money, with the school and coaches not knowing anything about it. For instance Ga Tech have to give up it's ACC Championship because a player sold his jersey for $200. This has happened to other schools as well. It's kind of all screwed up isn't it?

I'm not sure a school a "dirty" transfer has picked up has been dinged by the NCAA unless they knew the player was "dirty."

Again, with the portal, the NCAA itself could've prevented those players from being eligible and didn't....... then they want to punish a team for something the NCAA let happen?

I'm not in.

 

[ER Vol]

I'm not sure a school a "dirty" transfer has picked up has been dinged by the NCAA unless they knew the player was "dirty."

Again, with the portal, the NCAA itself could've prevented those players from being eligible and didn't....... then they want to punish a team for something the NCAA let happen?

I'm not in.

And yet the NCAA did not punish a school because the cheating was so wide spread and involved non athletes (UNC). It's all kind a stupid and also up the lawyers. It will be interesting how this all shakes out.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

My guess is that they will self impose some scholarship limits since they’re not getting who they want anyway and DW will seek NCAA sign-off so he can claim that the self imposed limits are part of a plea bargain that somehow trigger the automatic extension provision in Hoop’s contract. It’ll wind up costing use a few more million if Hoops is fired in a few years.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

And yet the NCAA did not punish a school because the cheating was so wide spread and involved non athletes (UNC). It's all kind a stupid and also up the lawyers. It will be interesting how this all shakes out.

The NCAA didn't punish UNC for fake classes because they govern ATHLETICS not ACADEMICS.

They reported UNC to the academic regulators who, I think, already had UNC on some kind of probation.

 

[Sam I Am]

My guess is that they make us watch the last 4 years of Holly Warlick coached games on an endless loop.


.....may God help us all !

 

[njvols]

if we get hammered it will be for "lack of institutional control". Those responsible for the lack of control are gone so I don't know.

Don’t think the institutional control thing will fly because the institution came forward, initiated it and aggressively took action. They could hammer us for lack of institutional winning.

 

[njvols]

You could argue that we could get “time served” and no loss of scholarships because we lost half our team in the transfer portal

 

[JWilly]

It seems to me that a lot of speculation on what the ncaa can and cannot do, is just that...speculation. Let me know if I am clear on this....an institution is slammed for “lack of institutional control”...the institution then, after the fact, fires those they believe responsible. Now, since those individuals are gone, the institution is 100% off the hook. No punishment. Now the institution is free to hire more sleazebags and repeat the performance if it chooses to do so. I believe there is a reason they use the phrase “institutional control” and not “it was a few rogue employees out of control” so it was not our fault.

One other thing...some jock accepts $ he/she was not supposed to accept. Before the ncaa rules on anything, said jock transfers to another school. Said jock keeps his/her nose clean at the new school. Now, the ncaa finds wrongdoing by the first school. Now, the second school is punished but not the first school. Makes perfect sense!

 

[MSrivervol]

I personally think the NCAA should take it easy on us, I mean, yeah having Phil Fulmer running the entire AD with his boy Cornbread and his bagmen out trying to bring in the talent was a little rough around the edges operationally, but it wasn’t like we won anything. Hell, vacate our one win at Auburn in 18 and let’s call it a day

 

[MajinBooCarter]

NCAA doesn't have any power

 

[T Clifton]

Eff the NCAA and anyone who complies, including Donde......

 

[onevol74]

That's fine IF the NCAA or TN or the players informed other schools which of the numerous transfers were involved.

If other schools weren't informed, how could they be punished for taking players the NCAA allowed in the portal and let those schools sign?

I don't buy that it's relevant unless someone can prove Bama, OU, etc KNEW they were getting players who took money.

Do those institutions not have a responsibility to monitor the athletes they allow into their program? Ignorance on their part is no excuse. It is not like UT was squashing the information surrounding the investigation. The NCAA has been involved from the start and is totally aware of what is going on and who is involved. If they had the info and allowed these kids to violate the rules and then play for other teams then they have violated their own rules.

 

[onevol74]

Eff the NCAA and anyone who complies, including Donde......

He misspelled Texas.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Do those institutions not have a responsibility to monitor the athletes they allow into their program? Ignorance on their part is no excuse. It is not like UT was squashing the information surrounding the investigation. The NCAA has been involved from the start and is totally aware of what is going on and who is involved. If they had the info and allowed these kids to violate the rules and then play for other teams then they have violated their own rules.

Well, if the NCAA knew they could've pulled the players from the portal. They didn't.

Again, MANY players transferred from UT. Unless the teams were told, they were just guys in the portal.

It's on the NCAA if they didn't pull guys they knew were dirty from transferring. You can't possibly suggest the teams be at fault if the NCAA knew and let teams pull them from the portal.

 

[T Clifton]

He misspelled Texas.

Keep focusing on the National Media. Tennessee fans know the truth about Texas/Tennessee.

 

[The Original Fade]

My guess is that they will self impose some scholarship limits since they’re not getting who they want anyway and DW will seek NCAA sign-off so he can claim that the self imposed limits are part of a plea bargain that somehow trigger the automatic extension provision in Hoop’s contract. It’ll wind up costing use a few more million if Hoops is fired in a few years.

Scholly restrictions are now ineffective. All Heupel has to do is call some local businesses and convince them to offer NIL in place of schollys for blue chips. NIL has changed the sport forever my friends.

 

[malibuvol]

So yes this is my first thread, but posted on here for a while. I have been out of the loop for a bit, so forgive if someone has already covered this topic.

I was talking to my LSU colleague and we came up with a theory about the NCAA restrictions and UT. UT came out with self imposed penalties, which did not include a post season bowl ban. The reason being that the players who would have been ruled ineligible has already transferred and by implementing a bowl we would be punishing players not involved in the said bad actions. So what that means is that Alabama, Texas A&M and Oklahoma took said players as part of their program. Since all those players have been in every game if they are ruled ineligible as players, then those schools must forfeit every game those players participated in.

Do you really think that the NCAA is going to void the season of Alabama, T A&M and Oklahoma? So I don't think we will get anything beyond what has already been done by UT. Would love to know what you all think.

Also a huge thanks to @London Vol for all the encouragement through my ordeal (and also his posts, he is straight up a really good dude).

Ask your LSU colleague what the NCAA is going to do with Will Wade...My guess is nothing...

 

[TNnative]

So yes this is my first thread, but posted on here for a while. I have been out of the loop for a bit, so forgive if someone has already covered this topic.

I was talking to my LSU colleague and we came up with a theory about the NCAA restrictions and UT. UT came out with self imposed penalties, which did not include a post season bowl ban. The reason being that the players who would have been ruled ineligible has already transferred and by implementing a bowl we would be punishing players not involved in the said bad actions. So what that means is that Alabama, Texas A&M and Oklahoma took said players as part of their program. Since all those players have been in every game if they are ruled ineligible as players, then those schools must forfeit every game those players participated in.

Do you really think that the NCAA is going to void the season of Alabama, T A&M and Oklahoma? So I don't think we will get anything beyond what has already been done by UT. Would love to know what you all think.

Also a huge thanks to @London Vol for all the encouragement through my ordeal (and also his posts, he is straight up a really good dude).

In a word, No. Whatever the investigation turns up will focus upon those who were handing out improper benefits, and not players who received them. Whoever the Hell thinks having a ex-Tennessee on another teams roster will cause a voiding of that teams season is living in a fantasy world. That would likely and very quickly lead to multiple institutions forming another governing body, and leaving the NCAA.

 

[onevol74]

In a word, No. Whatever the investigation turns up will focus upon those who were handing out improper benefits, and not players who received them. Whoever the Hell thinks having a ex-Tennessee on another teams roster will cause a voiding of that teams season is living in a fantasy world. That would likely and very quickly lead to multiple institutions forming another governing body, and leaving the NCAA.

Which eventually becomes the next NCAA.