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[AshG]

As Other Big Cities Tighten Mask and Vaccine Mandates, D.C. Becomes a Surprising Island of Relative Sanity - NewsBreak

Is this available elsewhere? It is asking me to download an app.

 

[SlingBlayde]

I've been saying this for months. And we wonder why people are resorting to using horse paste.

What they are doing with Ivermectin, HCQ, etc. is wrong on so many levels. If the drug is legal and a doctor prescribes it, case closed. Who are they to refuse? It just goes to show that someone else is pulling the medical strings and that there is an agenda to force everyone to get vaccinated.

 

[AshG]

What they are doing with Ivermectin, HCQ, etc. is wrong on so many levels. If the drug is legal and a doctor prescribes it, case closed. Who are they to refuse? It just goes to show that someone else is pulling the medical strings and that there is an agenda to force everyone to get vaccinated.

Or research is inconclusive and anecdotal information isn't enough to make the hospitals' lawyers budge.

Not everything is a bloody conspiracy. Sometimes things just work as designed long, long ago.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Are the cases you’re seeing relatively mild so far?

Relatively, yes. But the kids are sicker than they were with CV (higher temps, feel like crap, nasty cough, vomiting...).

 

[whodeycin85]

Or research is inconclusive and anecdotal information isn't enough to make the hospitals' lawyers budge.

Not everything is a bloody conspiracy. Sometimes things just work as designed long, long ago.

So you don't think that big pharma hold cheap, effective drugs from the population??? Thats was a conspiracy too..

 

[ButchPlz]

Or research is inconclusive and anecdotal information isn't enough to make the hospitals' lawyers budge.

Not everything is a bloody conspiracy. Sometimes things just work as designed long, long ago.

This is a failure of an argument considering there are years of research on the long-term safety of ivermectin in humans and near none on the long-term safety of vaccines, and there is much on the danger of intubation, etc. for certain people.

 

[AshG]

So you don't think that big pharma hold cheap, effective drugs from the population??? Thats was a conspiracy too..

I'm a walking chemistry set. I have big issues with big pharma. But in this case, the research kept walled away from pharma interference is either in process or shows a low percentage of efficacy when using ivermectin.

 

[SlingBlayde]

Or research is inconclusive and anecdotal information isn't enough to make the hospitals' lawyers budge.

Not everything is a bloody conspiracy. Sometimes things just work as designed long, long ago.

Isn't the liability on the prescribing doctor? Not an expert in medical law. I would think they would have a form that the patient or power of attorney could sign that would absolve the hospitals from all liability.

I would disagree that research is inconclusive or anecdotal. Depends on who the researchers are and who funds them. Plenty of statistics out there now that show these drugs help. The difference between truth and most conspiracy theories is about 6 to 12 months

 

[newyorkvol]

Is this available elsewhere? It is asking me to download an app.

Try this one…
As Other Big Cities Tighten Mask and Vaccine Mandates, D.C. Becomes a Surprising Island of Relative Sanity

 

[whodeycin85]

I'm a walking chemistry set. I have big issues with big pharma. But in this case, the research kept walled away from pharma interference is either in process or shows a low percentage of efficacy when using ivermectin.

oh so in this 1 case it's a conspiracy, even though other countries report good success using ivermectin...

 

[GVF]

Or research is inconclusive and anecdotal information isn't enough to make the hospitals' lawyers budge.

Not everything is a bloody conspiracy. Sometimes things just work as designed long, long ago.

Maybe the majority of things concerning Covid is a "conspiracy." Why does Pfizer have legality of not releasing info on their vaccines for 75 years? Why does only Covid require lockdowns, masks, and mandated shots when the flu is also viral and easily spread and kills in the 40-50K range in any given year? Until the data was rolled into Covid numbers. Why do we have Fauci telling us what to do when he had a large play in what happened? Why the government overreach to control the population when they play by different rules? Why only articles about people dying from Covid that didn't want shots? Why such a one sided media narrative at the direction of the government? There's a lot of unanswered questions and logic. Why does all this come about at a time when the liberal and socialist wings are trying to force the country to a certain direction? What happened to our rights to our own beliefs without persecution?

 

[AshG]

This is a failure of an argument considering there are years of research on the long-term safety of ivermectin in humans and near none on the long-term safety of vaccines, and there is much on the danger of intubation, etc. for certain people.

It's not a failure of an argument, you simply read it from a different angle than I intended.

Ivermectin, properly administered, is safe in humans. Yes.

Ivermectin's efficacy as a treatment for SARS-CoV-2 is still in study, with a small amount of formal studies completed and significant conflicting anecdotal information available.

 

[ButchPlz]

Maybe the majority of things concerning Covid is a "conspiracy." Why does Pfizer have legality of not releasing info on their vaccines for 75 years? Why does only Covid require lockdowns, masks, and mandated shots when the flu is also viral and easily spread and kills in the 40-50K range in any given year? Until the data was rolled into Covid numbers. Why do we have Fauci telling us what to do when he had a large play in what happened? Why the government overreach to control the population when they play by different rules? Why only articles about people dying from Covid that didn't want shots? Why such a one sided media narrative at the direction of the government? There's a lot of unanswered questions and logic. Why does all this come about at a time when the liberal and socialist wings are trying to force the country to a certain direction? What happened to our rights to our own beliefs without persecution?

It's not a conspiracy theory to ask questions.

The people that try to discredit those that are curious by just labeling everything a "conspiracy theory" ought to have their opinions thrown aside.

 

[GVF]

Or research is inconclusive and anecdotal information isn't enough to make the hospitals' lawyers budge.

Not everything is a bloody conspiracy. Sometimes things just work as designed long, long ago.

Maybe the majority of things concerning Covid is a "conspiracy." Why does Pfizer have legality of not releasing info on their vaccines for 75 years? Why does only Covid require lockdowns, masks, and mandated shots when the flu is also viral and easily spread and kills in the 40-50K range in any given year? Until the data was rolled into Covid numbers. Why do we have Fauci telling us what to do when he had a large play in what happened? Why the government overreach to control the population when they play by different rules? Why only articles about people dying from Covid that didn't want shots? Why such a one sided media narrative at the direction of the government? There's a lot of unanswered questions and logic. Why does all this come about at a time when the liberal and socialist wings are trying to force the country to a certain direction? What happened to our rights to our own beliefs without persecution?

 

[Ttucke11]

Or research is inconclusive and anecdotal information isn't enough to make the hospitals' lawyers budge.

Not everything is a bloody conspiracy. Sometimes things just work as designed long, long ago.

Inconclusive research didn't stop them from mandating an ineffective vaccine to practically everyone. But then again there are no legal ramifications since somehow they've magically bypassed them.

 

[GVF]

It's not a conspiracy theory to ask questions.

The people that try to discredit those that are curious by just labeling everything a "conspiracy theory" ought to have their opinions thrown aside.

The fact that Congress is exempt from Biden vaccine mandates says everything you need to know about misinformation and conspiracies.

 

[ButchPlz]

It's not a failure of an argument, you simply read it from a different angle than I intended.

Ivermectin, properly administered, is safe in humans. Yes.

Ivermectin's efficacy as a treatment for SARS-CoV-2 is still in study, with a small amount of formal studies completed and significant conflicting anecdotal information available.

As compared to the current vaccine regimen, which is also showing much the same... People should be allowed to ask questions and it should not be surprising that the assumption is that there is a conspiracy when certain treatments are suppressed while accepted treatments have all the same marks against them.

 

[AshG]

Try this one…
As Other Big Cities Tighten Mask and Vaccine Mandates, D.C. Becomes a Surprising Island of Relative Sanity

Thank you! Good read.

 

[AshG]

Inconclusive research didn't stop them from mandating an ineffective vaccine to practically everyone. But then again there are no legal ramifications since somehow they've magically bypassed them.

I can count the number of people I know personally who participated in early and clinical trials for the vaccines on two hands. I think I still have the email from one of them outlining the methodologies of the study.

Can't say that with ivermectin.

 

[GVF]

As compared to the current vaccine regimen, which is also showing much the same... People should be allowed to ask questions and it should not be surprising that the assumption is that there is a conspiracy when certain treatments are suppressed while accepted treatments have all the same marks against them.

The dividing line...Ivermectin is already in the market. Big Pharm is in bed with the Gov for far more billions on new mandatory drugs that hold them accountable for nothing against the human population. A 75 year exemption from reporting data also says everything you need to know about conspiracies, and the fact that the effectiveness of the mandated jabs is no better than a shot of contaminated sugar water.

 

[AshG]

Maybe the majority of things concerning Covid is a "conspiracy." Why does Pfizer have legality of not releasing info on their vaccines for 75 years? Why does only Covid require lockdowns, masks, and mandated shots when the flu is also viral and easily spread and kills in the 40-50K range in any given year? Until the data was rolled into Covid numbers. Why do we have Fauci telling us what to do when he had a large play in what happened? Why the government overreach to control the population when they play by different rules? Why only articles about people dying from Covid that didn't want shots? Why such a one sided media narrative at the direction of the government? There's a lot of unanswered questions and logic. Why does all this come about at a time when the liberal and socialist wings are trying to force the country to a certain direction? What happened to our rights to our own beliefs without persecution?

Why was Disney granted a copyright rollover that provides them with automatic renewal in perpetua when other entities, including billion dollar companies, have been refused that luxury?

 

[GVF]

I can count the number of people I know personally who participated in early and clinical trials for the vaccines on two hands. I think I still have the email from one of them outlining the methodologies of the study.

Can't say that with ivermectin.

Well, in 75 years you can get the "real truth"...When this generation has passed and they can tell that generation whatever they want.

 

[ButchPlz]

I can count the number of people I know personally who participated in early and clinical trials for the vaccines on two hands. I think I still have the email from one of them outlining the methodologies of the study.

Can't say that with ivermectin.

So amidst an absolute crisis of science- where findings that can't be replicated are published, passed off as real, forced into the public eye at the behest of money or buried if the results are not shaped to the right desire of the patron- your point (using anecdotes) is that one treatment is "studied" and another isn't and therefore the one that isn't "studied" is invalid or should be treated with skepticism?

 

[newyorkvol]

Thank you! Good read.

Yeah. Gives hope that some are “transitioning” their view of the role of govt. Like CO Governor saying “it’s over.” Moves is into the “live with it stage” rather than the “Covid zero” mentality that is still prevailing

 

[GVF]

Why was Disney granted a copyright rollover that provides them with automatic renewal in perpetua when other entities, including billion dollar companies, have been refused that luxury?

Conspiracy.