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[OHvol40]

Bull

Oh yeah? Expand on that.

 

[kiddiedoc]

My contention is that nearly all the people that I still see dying from this are unvaccinated. So if you’re actually waiting for a more definitive answer to walk up and slap you in the face, there isn’t going to be one. At some point it’s purely natural selection.

How many are morbidly obese?

 

[OHvol40]

How many are morbidly obese?

About the same % of Americans in general as far as I can tell.

 

[kiddiedoc]

About the same % of Americans in general as far as I can tell.

Interesting. My adult medicine friends tell quite the different story.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I guess the right-leaning CDC is on the take:


Obesity, Race/Ethnicity, and COVID-19

 

[kiddiedoc]

AAAS

More Severe Obesity Leads to More Severe COVID-19 in Study

Coronavirus Attacks Fat Tissue, Study Says

 

[kiddiedoc]

Thankfully, there's been a concerted effort over the past 21 months to get people outside or in gyms, joining group fitness classes, attending in-person Nutrition consults, eating healthful natural foods, avoiding sugar and excess alcohol intake, getting adequate sunlight and vitamin D, and quitting smoking.

 

[OHvol40]

Interesting. My adult medicine friends tell quite the different story.

Probably very dependent on regional demographics, obviously. The big ones tend to die at an expedited rate to be sure.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Probably very dependent on regional demographics, obviously. The big ones tend to die at an expedited rate to be sure.

Why would it depend on regional demographics? Are obese people at a significantly increased risk or not?

 

[Electric Orange]

Thankfully, there's been a concerted effort over the past 21 months to get people outside or in gyms, joining group fitness classes, attending in-person Nutrition consults, eating healthful natural foods, avoiding sugar and excess alcohol intake, getting adequate sunlight and vitamin D, and quitting smoking.

Well, maybe in places that haven't forced gyms to shut down.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Well, maybe in places that haven't forced gyms to shut down.

You missed the sarcasm

 

[Electric Orange]

You missed the sarcasm

Yeah, kinda only caught the last bit. Been a long day... week.

 

[OHvol40]

Why would it depend on regional demographics? Are obese people at a significantly increased risk or not?

Regional demographics determine what % of obese patients you’ll see. Of course obesity is a higher risk of death from COVID, and a higher risk of death from about 10,000 other conditions. Living in a coal fired plant fallout zone puts you at higher risk too, as does being immunocompromised, and having interstitial lung disease, and advanced age, and, and, and…

 

[C-south]

Im assuming you are joking but in reality this is why so many don’t get it, they get shamed by friends and family for selling out.

So is he “saving himself” or “saving you”?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

My contention is that nearly all the people that I still see dying from this are unvaccinated. So if you’re actually waiting for a more definitive answer to walk up and slap you in the face, there isn’t going to be one. At some point it’s purely natural selection.

So anecdotal... ok. But let's run with that anyways.

Those that "you still see" dying likely represent a very, very small percentage of COVID cases (at or well below 1%).

You make it as though COVID is the Black Plague.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Of course obesity is a higher risk of death from COVID, and a higher risk of death from about 10,000 other conditions.

Then why have we not seen a monumental push by public health officials to combat the obesity epidemic? Maybe this is the opportunity to actually make progress in the area ... If people are scared enough that they would stay home from church, shutter their businesses, and forcibly cover their children's faces, maybe, JUST MAYBE they could be convinced to put down the Mountain Dew, stop eating garbage, and get off their asses.

Instead, the singular message is "get the shot."

 

[kiddiedoc]

Yeah, kinda only caught the last bit. Been a long day... week.

Me too, brother,. . . Me too.

Hardest I've worked in two years. The flu really hit out of nowhere.

 

[Orangeburst]

Me too, brother,. . . Me too.

Hardest I've worked in two years. The flu really hit out of nowhere.

You think the flu shot will be effective this year? I wonder if flu shots have increased this year as so many get COVID simultaneously

 

[OHvol40]

Then why have we not seen a monumental push by public health officials to combat the obesity epidemic? Maybe this is the opportunity to actually make progress in the area ... If people are scared enough that they would stay home from church, shutter their businesses, and forcibly cover their children's faces, maybe, JUST MAYBE they could be convinced to put down the Mountain Dew, stop eating garbage, and get off their asses.

Instead, the singular message is "get the shot."

It’s not an either/or scenario. I agree, we need a much better plan to promote general health proactively… but, just like the people who refuse vaccination, browbeating people into a healthy lifestyle won’t work.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Then why have we not seen a monumental push by public health officials to combat the obesity epidemic? Maybe this is the opportunity to actually make progress in the area ... If people are scared enough that they would stay home from church, shutter their businesses, and forcibly cover their children's faces, maybe, JUST MAYBE they could be convinced to put down the Mountain Dew, stop eating garbage, and get off their asses.

Instead, the singular message is "get the shot."

Because getting the shot or even taking some magic pill/therapeutic they may come up with helps Big Pharma. It's not about our long term health.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

It’s not an either/or scenario. I agree, we need a much better plan to promote general health proactively… but, just like the people who refuse vaccination, browbeating people into a healthy lifestyle won’t work.

Browbeating? You can count on one hand how many public officials in the last 20 months have said anything about changing lifestyle to combat COVID.

Browbeating? They haven't even made an effort.

 

[ButchPlz]

Browbeating? You can count on one hand how many public officials in the last 20 months have said anything about changing lifestyle to combat COVID.

Browbeating? They haven't even made an effort.

Nobody is getting denied hospital treatment for being morbidly obese. It ain't even close to browbeating.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Nobody is getting denied hospital treatment for being morbidly obese. It ain't even close to browbeating.

Actually, when you think about it, obese people are making the hospitals tons of money (of course, that's the case with several comorbid conditions and illnesses). There is simply no financial incentive for encouraging/helping people to be healthy.

 

[VolinWayne]

Dr. Byram Bridle: Viral Immunologist Debunks Mask Protect People From Covid

 

[ButchPlz]

Actually, when you think about it, obese people are making the hospitals tons of money (of course, that's the case with several comorbid conditions and illnesses). There is simply no financial incentive for encouraging/helping people to be healthy.

Of course. We have entire industries that thrive off of unhealthiness. It's why I've made a huge effort to cut so much of the crap out of my diet and exercise frequently.