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Rasputin_Vol said:
Fine with me. Let's be cautious about everyone and every entity that pushes this jab. I say we question everything.
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Kids are a different risk category. Unlike adults, a child may not know their medical history, the names of medications they take, and most importantly they may not understand or identify the early signs of a reaction. The nurse would be faced with frantically trying to reach a parent on the phone while a panicked child who has not idea why he is having trouble breathing can’t even tell her the name of his pediatrician
 
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hog88 said:
We'll never get back to the way it was pre-covid.
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Economies adjust, as long as the government doesn’t stick their noses too far under the tent. Not saying that pandemics are a good thing AT ALL, but history provides an interesting example with the Black Death. After Europe lost about 1/3 of its population, it’s economy entered a period of incredible growth. With Labour shortages combined with the sudden availability of uncultivated land at bargain prices, individual wealth of the lower and middle class skyrocketed. We may be seeing the beginning of something similar now with employers offering premium wages for entry level work. If we can survive the inflation that is….and that is an example of the government doing more harm than good. Pumping freshly printed dollars into the economy prevents the market from self regulating.
You could argue that the tragedy of the plague helped end the Middle Ages and set the stage for the renaissance and the enlightenment and created the modern world. So my bottom line argument is, keep the government out of the way and the invisible hand of the market will find the optimum adjustment to the new reality. Even covid cannot defeat a free people allowed to actually LIVE FREELY.
 
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newyorkvol said:
COVID: New York imposes new mask and vaccine mandates. What to know

Un-elected Governor declares new health state of emergency and now requires private businesses to mask or mandate vaccines. Unreal.
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Don’t worry, New York, like California, is just destroying itself and sending its population (and electoral votes and congressional seat count) to Florida and Texas. Let’s just hope the newly freed serfs learn to appreciate freedom and not continue to vote for the party that enslaved them…..
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NurseGoodVol said:
I agree. I have already accepted what my career is going to be moving forward.
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Elon needs Mars colonists….join me there 😉
When Red States just aren’t enough, we need a Red Planet. Elon is “red pilled” (see the theme here) and the First Martian Republik will be a paradise (except for the solar radiation, deadly sandstorms, and lack of oxygen of course 😉)
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Economies adjust, as long as the government doesn’t stick their noses too far under the tent. Not saying that pandemics are a good thing AT ALL, but history provides an interesting example with the Black Death. After Europe lost about 1/3 of its population, it’s economy entered a period of incredible growth. With Labour shortages combined with the sudden availability of uncultivated land at bargain prices, individual wealth of the lower and middle class skyrocketed. We may be seeing the beginning of something similar now with employers offering premium wages for entry level work. If we can survive the inflation that is….and that is an example of the government doing more harm than good. Pumping freshly printed dollars into the economy prevents the market from self regulating.
You could argue that the tragedy of the plague helped end the Middle Ages and set the stage for the renaissance and the enlightenment and created the modern world. So my bottom line argument is, keep the government out of the way and the invisible hand of the market will find the optimum adjustment to the new reality. Even covid cannot defeat a free people allowed to actually LIVE FREELY.
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All the levels of government are not going to let their new found powers go. There will be another "pandemic" or other world wide emergency that will require them to act so that cats out of the bag, we're not going back.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Elon needs Mars colonists….join me there 😉
When Red States just aren’t enough, we need a Red Planet. Elon is “red pilled” (see the theme here) and the First Martian Republik will be a paradise (except for the solar radiation, deadly sandstorms, and lack of oxygen of course 😉)
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Minor drawbacks, I’m sure he has a plan.
 
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hog88 said:
All the levels of government are not going to let their new found powers go. There will be another "pandemic" or other world wide emergency that will require them to act so that cats out of the bag, we're not going back.
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They will always keep us under some type of emergency act to expand their powers.
 
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hog88 said:
All the levels of government are not going to let their new found powers go. There will be another "pandemic" or other world wide emergency that will require them to act so that cats out of the bag, we're not going back.
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I am not so sure. Humans have an unquenchable thirst for Freedom. The polls (at least here in the us) show that maybe people are tiring of their statist overlords. Let’s see what the 2022 and 2024 elections say before giving up hope. But Inwill say this, the Republicans better come in from day 1 with a plan to “drain the swamp” and it can’t be timid or aim for working WITH the Democrats. Defund agencies, cut funding to work colleges and NPR/PBS. The bureaucracy, academia, and the entertainment industry have all been weaponized to Push work liberalism and to destroy individual Liberty. We will have a short window in which to undo that. I hope the Republicans are up to the task (I have my doubts though). The only hope is to STAY ON YOUR REPRESENTATIVES TAIL after Jan 2023. Call them frequently and tell them you will never vote for them again if they don’t go in completely on cleaning up the pig style that is DC. It is ultimately up to us.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Then why the hell are we mandating the vaccine on a novel virus then? So let me get this straight... we shouldn't scrutinize the studies and data being presented nor should we scrutinize the efficacy of the vaccine?
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When did I discourage scrutinization or support mandates?
 
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DC_Vol said:
A vaccine mandate is an absolute, though. That’s where the hang up is for most who have decided not to take the vaccine at this point of time.
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No it’s not. The hang up is identity politics for most… because if you’re actually weighing relevant information (like a huge majority of the people still dying from COVID in the US are unvaccinated) then it would be a pretty clear choice… but hey, the choice is still yours to make though.
 
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The one thing I wish is that we had an actually accurate count of covid deaths, people actually dying from covid not merely dying WITH covid. If we were talking an actual EXCESS death count of 800,000 (that’s EIGHT Neyland sellouts people), it would be much more evident. We would be talking almost 1 in every 400 Americans dead. We would be talking apocalyptic death and destruction
 
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OrangeTsar said:
The one thing I wish is that we had an actually accurate count of covid deaths, people actually dying from covid not merely dying WITH covid. If we were talking an actual EXCESS death count of 800,000 (that’s EIGHT Neyland sellouts people), it would be much more evident. We would be talking almost 1 in every 400 Americans dead. We would be talking apocalyptic death and destruction
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I don’t have the imagination to consider the logistics of such a total… but anecdotally, every person in our ICU since august has been admitted FOR COVID, and only 3 that have required mechanical ventilation (which is every COVID+ ICU patient at our facility) have made it.
 
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OHvol40 said:
I don’t have the imagination to consider the logistics of such a total… but anecdotally, every person in our ICU since august has been admitted FOR COVID, and only 3 that have required mechanical ventilation (which is every COVID+ ICU patient at our facility) have made it.
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Similar for McMom's hospitals. I think they had their last icu death back when it was ramped up in our area. But it was only one person. The outcomes are much better now than they used to be.
 
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OHvol40 said:
I don’t have the imagination to consider the logistics of such a total… but anecdotally, every person in our ICU since august has been admitted FOR COVID, and only 3 that have required mechanical ventilation (which is every COVID+ ICU patient at our facility) have made it.
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Thanks for the real world example. I hear so much from both sides of which I am unsure. I definitely remember anecdotal stores like the man who died in a motorcycle accident in Florida that was listed as a covid death. I have since been very sceptical of the official totals. The problem is that I don’t really know who I would trust to give me a number that wasn’t either overinflated or undercounted to bolster one political side or the other. Objectivity was the first casualty of covid
 
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OrangeTsar said:
The one thing I wish is that we had an actually accurate count of covid deaths, people actually dying from covid not merely dying WITH covid. If we were talking an actual EXCESS death count of 800,000 (that’s EIGHT Neyland sellouts people), it would be much more evident. We would be talking almost 1 in every 400 Americans dead. We would be talking apocalyptic death and destruction
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2019 deaths, 2.8 million Products - Data Briefs - Number 395 - December 2020
2020 deaths, 3.3 million Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2020

That .5 million difference aligns pretty closely with the Covid death count.
 
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