Kirby had no business winning COY over Heupel

Should Heupel have won?

  • Yes

    Votes: 263 59.1%

  • No

    Votes: 182 40.9%
  • Total voters
    445
#51
#51
livefaith said:
I'm not sure if you're aware of it or not. But, those recruiting classes are about 1/3 if a college head coaches job. So, that actually bolsters a coaches pedigree in my book. Whether our HC can pull off such remains to be seen
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I am well aware. But Hueple in his first year with skeins else recruiting class and with all the kids we had when he came there is a lot more difficult to navigate than the #1 class 3 of the last 4 years. Pruitt and Butch could recruit but they was terrible coaches. Now we have an actual coach that has no problems dealing the cards that are dealt and make the most of it.
 
#53
#53
Boston Vol said:
Kiffin and Pittman have just as strong of an argument as Heupel, if not stronger. Heupel did a great job, that’s all that really matters.
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There’s no way Kiffin wins it. He did a great job but just the way he did it pisses people off. Pittman probably would be my choice if I were unbiased. Heupel is great also.
 
#54
#54
COY should always be the coach of the conference winner. It makes no sense for it to not be. That coach did the best job. It shouldn't be a "oh look what you did" award.
 
#55
#55
sunnyvol79 said:
Lol at some of the people on here saying Kirby did a terrible job this year and doesn’t deserve COY. We would kill to have go undefeated in the regular season and be in the playoff right now and be relevant again on the national stage.
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I would kill to have that team he has...would probably want someone else to coach it.
 
#56
#56
cbvolsfan said:
Tennessee football: Kirby Smart had no business winning SEC Coach of the Year over Josh Heupel
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Kiffin should have gotten the vote. Inherits a 4-8 team 2 years ago, team goes 5-5 last year, puts up a 10 win top 10 ranking season the next year for first time in Ole Miss history?2nd in SECW, Beats top 25 A&M, Arkansas as well as Huepel in Neyland?

We all know our record would have been worse without the Milton injury. How can you give it to Huepel over him other than hating him? I get what Huepel didn't inherit and that was something like 30 plus players, and a team that won more than half it's game the previous years, but when you have something like what Kiffin did this year, I just don't think it is as credentialed.

Huepel has his chances coming and I am happy to have him. The guy is not only a good coach he is a class act. Starting to gain some swagger too. I am rooting for him. Kirby? Nah.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I think you’re living in an alternate universe. The west was absolutely loaded. No we didn’t beat Ole MS. From top to bottom to no division in college football comes close. I’ll take the last place team in the west against the 3rd best team anywhere and against the 2nd best team almost anywhere
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We scored more than Ole Miss, on the field, under the rules of football. The officals making up something after a touchdown to remove it from the board doesn't change my mind, that on the field, we out scored them.

I'm living in an alternate reality and you think LSU would beat the #2 team in any other conference? They played UCLA who finished 5th in the Pac 12 and got handily defeated. The next team up, Auburn, played vs a mediocre Penn State team who barely edged out Maryland for last place in the Big 10 east and got beat. Texas A&M beat Colorado 10-7 in it's "tough" non-conf game. Colorado finished 2nd from last in the Pac-12 and 4-8 overall. Mississippi State, 4th in the SEC West, lost to Memphis. SEC West teams outside of Alabama are average and perfectly capable of losing to other average teams in the nation at any time, even below average ones.
 
#58
#58
Coach of SEC champs, or division champs almost always win, whether they can coach or not. Saban obviously can, Smart not so much, but has assembled great talent. In terms of coaching alone, I've have Pittman 1a, Heupel 1b, (reversed with wins over Pitt n OM) n tied (with only one win, either Pitt or OM), Kiffin 2 (he was the benefactor of a once n a generation type QB), and 3 Smart (questionable coaching but has assembled talent galore), can't ignore what that talent has accomplished on the field.
 
#60
#60
JH Pittman and Kiffin deserved it more. Hell, I could have coached UGA and won 12 games with the talent they have. What great coaching job did Smart actually do???
 
#61
#61
Heup & his Assistants did a great job getting the team/staff to pull in a positive direction, and focus every week.

But SEC had 3-5 coaches this year more deserving of COY- Smart, Kiffin, probably Pittman, and even Stoops & Saban. Of course all these guys had at least a one year head start on Heup leading into this season to recruit, figure out personnel, etc.

Other coaches having better cases for COY this year doesn’t subtract from Heup’s results with short prep time. Maybe if Milton was here in the Spring, Heup would have decided on Hooker as QB1 on Week 1. But he wasn’t and we were 7-5. It is what it is.
 
#63
#63
While I think Smart was the "easy" pick for Coach of the Year, I think Kiffin (Ole Miss first 10 win regular season) and Sam Pittman (8-4) after Arky winning 7 games total the last 3 seasons (including 4 wins under Morris) have a bigger claim to the award than Heupel.

Heupel prolly could have gotten in there had we won 2 out of the 3 of Ole Miss, Pitt, and Florida......
 
#66
#66
Volunteer_Kirby said:
Nick Saban is the most successful coach of all time. What is so hard to understand?
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Meh. He's a good coach that benefitted from the social media age. When every media outlet tells you who is the best and where to go cuz your chances are better, it's not surprising every kid wants to go there and the can just pick and choose.
 
#67
#67
Again, the amount of some of you on here willing to die on the hill for UGA is sickening.
 
#68
#68
Kirby does less with more talent than ANY coach in the SEC. Coaching wise, he couldn't carry our Coach's jockstrap. You give Kirby our team and he goes 3 and 9.
 
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Mccage said:
Then get Monkey Stomped by Bama!
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True..True...Bama was ranked #3, though....I believe it is a regular season award... Correct me if that is wrong...
You still think a regular season 5 loss coach deserves this award over an undefeated coach in the same league/division? Reality...you need some. Oh, and that undefeated coach STOMPED US....
 
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#73
#73
Heupel did a fantastic job. But so did Kiffin, Smart, and Pittman. SEC was full of good coaches this season
 
#74
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cbvolsfan said:
Tennessee football: Kirby Smart had no business winning SEC Coach of the Year over Josh Heupel
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Kiffin should have gotten the vote IMO. Inherits a 4-8 team 2 years ago, team goes 5-5 last year, puts up a 10 win top 10 ranking season the next year for first time in Ole Miss history?2nd in SECW, Beats top 25 A&M, Arkansas as well as Huepel in Neyland?

We all know our record would have been worse without the Milton injury. How can you give it to Huepel over Lane other than hating him?
 
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#75
#75
VolMarine1371 said:
Shouldn’t coach of the year be about doing more with less. Hueple and Smart could have switched teams and UGA would have been 12-0 heading into SEC championship game. We had a lead in every game we played and depth killed us. UGA has had 3 of the last 4 top recruiting classes. Who couldn’t coach that and be successful?
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Butch Jones
 
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