Hate towards others' political beliefs creates a sense of purpose, being

[AshG]

New psychology research indicates hatred toward collective entities inspires meaning in life

"The ability of hatred to spur meaning in life may be explained by motivational states associated with a sense of purpose and significance. Purpose has been linked to Behavioural Activation System (BAS) related motivational states, revolving around commitment to concrete or abstract priorities, and “wanting” states that push people toward their goals. The pursuit of ultimate values is associated with these same BAS-processes and may enhance BAS activation due to excitement relating to the transcendent significance of one’s goals. If hate provides a sense of purpose by presenting an enemy that ought to be stopped, those who experience hate could gain a sense of meaning in life through these processes.

Hate may also inspire meaning in life by influencing motivational states linked to coherence and threat. Coherence involves having a predictable view of the world, which is free of threat and uncertainty. The Behavioral Inhibition System (BIS) is activated by threats; for example, a threat to one’s coherent worldview, which may spur internal conflict, as well as feelings of uncertainty and confusion. As such, hate may increase meaning in life by offering a simplistic “us vs. them” view of the world that quells BIS-linked threats."

 

[AshG]

So my apologies for trying to snap our most ardently fulfilled posters from their raison d'etre.

 

[KB5252]

New psychology research indicates hatred toward collective entities inspires meaning in life

"The ability of hatred to spur meaning in life may be explained by motivational states associated with a sense of purpose and significance. Purpose has been linked to Behavioural Activation System (BAS) related motivational states, revolving around commitment to concrete or abstract priorities, and “wanting” states that push people toward their goals. The pursuit of ultimate values is associated with these same BAS-processes and may enhance BAS activation due to excitement relating to the transcendent significance of one’s goals. If hate provides a sense of purpose by presenting an enemy that ought to be stopped, those who experience hate could gain a sense of meaning in life through these processes.

Hate may also inspire meaning in life by influencing motivational states linked to coherence and threat. Coherence involves having a predictable view of the world, which is free of threat and uncertainty. The Behavioral Inhibition System (BIS) is activated by threats; for example, a threat to one’s coherent worldview, which may spur internal conflict, as well as feelings of uncertainty and confusion. As such, hate may increase meaning in life by offering a simplistic “us vs. them” view of the world that quells BIS-linked threats."

@luthervol

 

[NurseGoodVol]

New psychology research indicates hatred toward collective entities inspires meaning in life

"The ability of hatred to spur meaning in life may be explained by motivational states associated with a sense of purpose and significance. Purpose has been linked to Behavioural Activation System (BAS) related motivational states, revolving around commitment to concrete or abstract priorities, and “wanting” states that push people toward their goals. The pursuit of ultimate values is associated with these same BAS-processes and may enhance BAS activation due to excitement relating to the transcendent significance of one’s goals. If hate provides a sense of purpose by presenting an enemy that ought to be stopped, those who experience hate could gain a sense of meaning in life through these processes.

Hate may also inspire meaning in life by influencing motivational states linked to coherence and threat. Coherence involves having a predictable view of the world, which is free of threat and uncertainty. The Behavioral Inhibition System (BIS) is activated by threats; for example, a threat to one’s coherent worldview, which may spur internal conflict, as well as feelings of uncertainty and confusion. As such, hate may increase meaning in life by offering a simplistic “us vs. them” view of the world that quells BIS-linked threats."

I don’t have hate in my heart to those with different views. I have disgust in my heart for evil.

 

[n_huffhines]

New psychology research indicates hatred toward collective entities inspires meaning in life

"The ability of hatred to spur meaning in life may be explained by motivational states associated with a sense of purpose and significance. Purpose has been linked to Behavioural Activation System (BAS) related motivational states, revolving around commitment to concrete or abstract priorities, and “wanting” states that push people toward their goals. The pursuit of ultimate values is associated with these same BAS-processes and may enhance BAS activation due to excitement relating to the transcendent significance of one’s goals. If hate provides a sense of purpose by presenting an enemy that ought to be stopped, those who experience hate could gain a sense of meaning in life through these processes.

Hate may also inspire meaning in life by influencing motivational states linked to coherence and threat. Coherence involves having a predictable view of the world, which is free of threat and uncertainty. The Behavioral Inhibition System (BIS) is activated by threats; for example, a threat to one’s coherent worldview, which may spur internal conflict, as well as feelings of uncertainty and confusion. As such, hate may increase meaning in life by offering a simplistic “us vs. them” view of the world that quells BIS-linked threats."

I believe it but with the caveat that the hate stems from the idea that it's good vs. evil. You hate the other side because they are evil. To oppose them gives you purpose, not necessarily because of hate, but because of the ego boost you get from being on the side of good, vigilant against evil.

 

[AshG]

I don’t have hate in my heart to those with different views. I have disgust in my heart for evil.

But when it comes down to it, aren't hate and disgust both simply lower order manifestations our minds use to protect us from what we perceive as danger?

(And I'm super picking nits here for the sake of discussion, not to pick you apart)

 

[n_huffhines]

But when it comes down to it, aren't hate and disgust both simply lower order manifestations our minds use to protect us from what we perceive as danger?

(And I'm super picking nits here for the sake of discussion, not to pick you apart)

Yeah, what is the difference between disgust and hate? "You disgust me" seems harsher than "I hate you."

 

[LouderVol]

It's why tribalism is so effective for both sides. It's easier to motivate by pointing the finger at others wrong than your own.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Yeah, what is the difference between disgust and hate? "You disgust me" seems harsher than "I hate you."

I have always felt disgust was a disapproval with someone because of something they did that I considered unpleasant or offensive. Personally, there have been instances in my life where I had disgust towards friends and family but issues were later resolved. I was taught by my parents that hate was never an option even with someone who I strongly disliked. My 2 cents.

 

[hndog609]

But when it comes down to it, aren't hate and disgust both simply lower order manifestations our minds use to protect us from what we perceive as danger?

(And I'm super picking nits here for the sake of discussion, not to pick you apart)

I don't know. Definitionally I think someone could be "disgusted" by, say, homosexuality (just to name a topic that's easy to grasp) but still come to the aid of a gay person. Hatred is (to my mind anyway, not the ever more generic/freely associated definition) something that would make one reticent render aid or even watch them suffer or die as a good thing.

 

[deezvols]

what a sad life people live if this is their "purpose"

 

[KB5252]

It's why tribalism is so effective for both sides. It's easier to motivate by pointing the finger at others wrong than your own.

The first step is to walk away from both sides. I lean right but no longer identify with a party. They don't represent me.

 

[volinbham]

I can't think of any group I hate. Even with individuals I describe it as dislike rather than hate. Not always a requirement, but I think of hate as indicated by some action intended to negatively impact the target (e.g. doxxing, cancelling, or worse).

 

[Gandalf]

2 major problems:

1. People are unable to distinguish between behavior that is evil/wrong/unrighteous and decisions by others that they simply disagree with.
You think more money should be spent on a social safety net programs and I think the money should be spent on community policing is quite different than you thinking that children are sexual beings at 8 years old.

2. People are unable to abstract judging behavior as evil/wrong/unrighteous with thinking a person is evil/wrong/unrighteous.
The law I follow considers that there are none righteous, myself included (at least on the merit of my own behavior). I can disagree with others, even think that they are seriously wrong in their judgement about many things and still treat them humanely without any hate. I may be called to do what I can to stop them from doing evil behavior but again, it is not mine to judge the person themselves. There are those in prison who have done very evil things who have repented and may well be further ahead on the path to wisdom than the sanctimonious moralist who believes they are without fault.

#1 is difficult but #2 is really very very hard. How many can say that they did not feel hate in their heart for 911 terrorists and all who support them? Do they do evil? YES! Should they be stopped and killed if possible? YES! Yet we must be careful not to grow in hate for them. Not for their sake but for our own. It is no different in any other area. It is something I struggle with at times.

 

[volinbham]

How many can say that they did not feel hate in their heart for 911 terrorists and all who support them? Do they do evil? YES! Should they be stopped and killed if possible? YES! Yet we must be careful not to grow in hate for them. Not for their sake but for our own.

I hate their actions. I cannot fathom why they would do such evil acts. That said, I feel hate is a personal thing and I don't know these people so I never formed a personal hate for them. I'm glad they are gone and cannot do any more evil.

 

[Gandalf]

I hate their actions. I cannot fathom why they would do such evil acts. That said, I feel hate is a personal thing and I don't know these people so I never formed a personal hate for them. I'm glad they are gone and cannot do any more evil.

As a Christian I am required to hate evil and love people. Sometimes stopping evil requires severe actions against or eliminating people who are doing that evil. I do not see any conflict in those two thoughts.

 

[hog88]

Hate all you sons a biatches.

 

[BreatheUT]

The unbridled racism of Joy Reid

 

[n_huffhines]

I have always felt disgust was a disapproval with someone because of something they did that I considered unpleasant or offensive. Personally, there have been instances in my life where I had disgust towards friends and family but issues were later resolved. I was taught by my parents that hate was never an option even with someone who I strongly disliked. My 2 cents.

The way you use "disgust" and "hate" is that hate is more permanent, or pertaining to what's going on overall vs. something specific.

The way I see it is that you can be disgusted by someone or by an action of theirs. You can hate someone or hate an action of theirs. It's the same thing to me, only disgust is more intense.

For the purposes of this conversation, I think disapproval to the point of disgust of the person would fall under this hate/good vs. evil motivational umbrella. In other words, I don't think the authors of these studies would say "that's disgust, not hate" and ignore it.

 

[volinbham]

The way you use "disgust" and "hate" is that hate is more permanent, or pertaining to what's going on overall vs. something specific.

The way I see it is that you can be disgusted by someone or by an action of theirs. You can hate someone or hate an action of theirs. It's the same thing to me, only disgust is more intense.

I'm in line with Pepper in a couple ways. Disgust is focused whereas hate is more of a global evaluation. Eg. I'm disgusted you litter but I don't hate you as a person overall. IMHO, actions are disgusting, hate is directed at the person as a whole.

 

[n_huffhines]

I don't know. Definitionally I think someone could be "disgusted" by, say, homosexuality (just to name a topic that's easy to grasp) but still come to the aid of a gay person. Hatred is (to my mind anyway, not the ever more generic/freely associated definition) something that would make one reticent render aid or even watch them suffer or die as a good thing.

But people help people that they hate.

 

[hndog609]

But people help people that they hate.

This is where I'm rather making a delineation between terminology. If you no kidding hate someone, short of it being self-serving in some way, I see little impetus to cut them any slack whatsoever.

Upshot is, at least to my mind, real hate is wholly incompatible with empathy or sympathy.

 

[n_huffhines]

This is where I'm rather making a delineation between terminology. If you no kidding hate someone, short of it being self-serving in some way, I see little impetus to cut them any slack whatsoever.

Upshot is, at least to my mind, real hate is wholly incompatible with empathy or sympathy.

That definition is so extreme I doubt that's what the authors would use to define hate. I would guess that an very small minority of Americans hates the other side enough to see the other side dying of a rattlesnake bite and not call 911.

 

[hndog609]

That definition is so extreme I doubt that's what the authors would use to define hate. I would guess that an very small minority of Americans hates the other side enough to see the other side dying of a rattlesnake bite and not call 911.

I absolutely would hope you're correct. But if we're not having "hate" mean something extreme then what would be the correct terminology? Despise? Loath? Abhor? Or do we do the old high school thing.

"I mean, I like him but I don't LIKE like him." (I mean, I hate those people but I don't HATE hate those people)

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

New psychology research indicates hatred toward collective entities inspires meaning in life

"The ability of hatred to spur meaning in life may be explained by motivational states associated with a sense of purpose and significance. Purpose has been linked to Behavioural Activation System (BAS) related motivational states, revolving around commitment to concrete or abstract priorities, and “wanting” states that push people toward their goals. The pursuit of ultimate values is associated with these same BAS-processes and may enhance BAS activation due to excitement relating to the transcendent significance of one’s goals. If hate provides a sense of purpose by presenting an enemy that ought to be stopped, those who experience hate could gain a sense of meaning in life through these processes.

Hate may also inspire meaning in life by influencing motivational states linked to coherence and threat. Coherence involves having a predictable view of the world, which is free of threat and uncertainty. The Behavioral Inhibition System (BIS) is activated by threats; for example, a threat to one’s coherent worldview, which may spur internal conflict, as well as feelings of uncertainty and confusion. As such, hate may increase meaning in life by offering a simplistic “us vs. them” view of the world that quells BIS-linked threats."

All most people on the right ask for in life is to be left the hell alone. As long as you are not bothering me or threatening my life, liberties or property, I have no reason to hate anyone.

But you busybody liberals feel the need to push your agenda and lifestyles on others, and that is where the conflict occurs.