The Atlanta Braves - Hello darkness my old friend

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Blake25p said:
Kevan Smith and Jeff Mathis were our best options at catcher at times last year, we needed a quality backup.
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Pina is actually an overqualified backup. I’m fine with the move for 2022 like I was fine with RFA. I just don’t get why TDA/Pina are both on the books for 2023.
 
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zjcvols said:
Pina is actually an overqualified backup. I’m fine with the move for 2022 like I was fine with RFA. I just don’t get why TDA/Pina are both on the books for 2023.
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Well you aren’t factoring in another 1800 minor league at bats for Shea. We shouldn’t call him up until he proves he can hit .400 in The Sip
 
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I will say: trading Pina would be easy. Plenty of teams look for a catcher. So if Shea gets AB in Atlanta and looks good it’d pretty easy to move Pina with only $4.5M on his contract in 2023 and a team option with no buyout in 2024
 
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zjcvols said:
I will say: trading Pina would be easy. Plenty of teams look for a catcher. So if Shea gets AB in Atlanta and looks good it’d pretty easy to move Pina with only $4.5M on his contract in 2023 and a team option with no buyout in 2024
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And Shea wouldn’t be in ATL until midseason anyway.
 
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zjcvols said:
The second year to Pina just for doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t und erstand that one.
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Probably because Pina wouldn’t sign a 1 year deal at his age. I’ve said since they extended TAD, that he was trade capital at some point; if not this season then next. Willie will be traded also and Pina could be flipped, but is insurance so Shea can get a month or 2 at Gwinnett to save a year of control(pending the new CBA). Good Catchers are hard to find as Braves have seen the past few years, so pick them up early; someone will pay you for one if you want to sell.
 
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GAVol said:
I'd love to know the real story of what happened and how it was so egregious that they banned his ass. There just aren't very many that have ended up on the banned list.
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Did we ever hear his side of the story? I don't recall. Probably has an agreement to not discuss it
 
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vols 30 said:
Did we ever hear his side of the story? I don't recall. Probably has an agreement to not discuss it
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. It seems like he was basically doing an end around on MLB's international signing rules and was basically engaged in recruiting kids. I just have a hard time believing that he was the only one doing it and nobody else knew what was going on. If he was talking to kids when he shouldn't have been, obviously he needed to be sanctioned, but what could he have done that was so bad that MLB wanted him out of the sport?

...and btw, none of those players the Braves had to release has panned out.
 
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GAVol said:
That's exactly what I'm talking about. It seems like he was basically doing an end around on MLB's international signing rules and was basically engaged in recruiting kids. I just have a hard time believing that he was the only one doing it and nobody else knew what was going on. If he was talking to kids when he shouldn't have been, obviously he needed to be sanctioned, but what could he have done that was so bad that MLB wanted him out of the sport?
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I think this was only the tip of the iceberg
 
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