Bush commutes sentences for 2 Border guards

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It's hard to feel sorry for an illegal immigrant drug dealer. The only thing I see wrong is that the agents tried to cover it up. Their time served more than makes up for that. As far as presidential pardons/commutes go, this is a pretty good one. I agree with Bush on this one.
 
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rjd970 said:
It's hard to feel sorry for an illegal immigrant drug dealer. The only thing I see wrong is that the agents tried to cover it up. Their time served more than makes up for that. As far as presidential pardons/commutes go, this is a pretty good one. I agree with Bush on this one.
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so he didn't pardon them, Bush only commuted their jail time. is that right?

i've always wondered why Bush didn't pardon these guys earlier. it seems Bush has always tried to defend or be sympathetic to mexico when it came to illegal alliens.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Only when it was expedient and without risk to him.
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The thing that I don't understand is, what were the political risks he would have taken by doing this sooner? It would have been a pretty popular decision had he made it sooner.

Who would have protested???
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The thing that I don't understand is, what were the political risks he would have taken by doing this sooner? It would have been a pretty popular decision had he made it sooner.

Who would have protested???
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MECHA, La Raza, and many other Hispanic groups.
 
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MG1968 said:
MECHA, La Raza, and many other Hispanic groups.
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OK... so? I mean, who cares? Those groups aren't GOP voters more than likely and they represent a small minority of people compared to the rest of the country. It wasn't like he was jeopardizing GOP votes in any future elections.

If it was good enough to do it now and pay the price in upcomng elections, then it would have been fine to do it then. Just makes no sense...
 
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hatvol96 said:
Only when it was expedient and without risk to him.
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While I agree it was too long in coming I'm not certain what a 2nd term president is risking. Getting elected again? Popular vote? The only thing I could think of was to pocket it until after the election on behalf of the party to try to hold onto some hispanic votes but that's pure speculation on my part.
 
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Bush and the GOP have been actively courting the Hispanic vote for some time. Not just the relatively conservative Cuban vote either. They were seeking the votes of the left of center groups with their Amnesty Bill of a couple of years ago.

The irony here is that the two border guards are of Hispanic descent.

and don't get me wrong, the two never should have been prosecuted for doing their jobs and it's inexcusable that a pardon/commutation took this long.
 
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rjd970 said:
It's hard to feel sorry for an illegal immigrant drug dealer. The only thing I see wrong is that the agents tried to cover it up. Their time served more than makes up for that. As far as presidential pardons/commutes go, this is a pretty good one. I agree with Bush on this one.
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Sounds about right to me. The cover up likely deserves some punishment.
 
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joevol320 said:
about 2 years too late.
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hatvol96 said:
Exactly. That he waited til he was headed out the door just further emphasizes Bush's lack of intestinal fortitude.
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GAVol said:
I agree, but at least he did something.
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rjd970 said:
It's hard to feel sorry for an illegal immigrant drug dealer. The only thing I see wrong is that the agents tried to cover it up. Their time served more than makes up for that. As far as presidential pardons/commutes go, this is a pretty good one. I agree with Bush on this one.
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Apparently nobody in this thread feels that shooting a non-combatant in the back is worthy of jail time???

Interesting...
 
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therealUT said:
Apparently nobody in this thread feels that shooting a non-combatant in the back is worthy of jail time???

Interesting...
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Have you ever read any thing that in this forum.

Most want to set up sniper stations and kill people for the heck of it and line them up like cord wood.
 
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MG1968 said:
so if a cop shoots a fleeing criminal, he or she deserves to be put in jail?
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Yes.

Police officers should use their firearms to protect themselves and protect the public from immediate harm. An unarmed, small time crook is not posing an imminent danger to anyone.
 
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