Neyland Full Capacity Reduced?

Stop making the experience generic and like every other stadium already out there. If I wanted to go to an NFL game I'd go to an NFL game. People aren't skipping Neyland because you don't blast enough canned music. Which brings up number two-

Stop blasting me with canned music. You have a band. Get the band involved. Make it bigger, make it louder. It feels like the Pride is smaller these days. Beef it up. Maybe liven it up a little. Southern Cal does this neat thing where the band gets on the field and jams out for a half hour after games. They play all sorts of wacky stuff, obscure bits from their repertoire, etc. People love to hang around and listen, and you get the added bonus of waiting out out the traffic jams. How about you try that? Or at least take inspiration from that?

The real kicker is that a lot of this feels like trying to answer the question "how do we get people to come when the team isn't competitive on the field?" You can't buy your way out of that one, I suspect. You can't beat home. Make it different than home. Bring value. Focus on making a better experience on the field, and better value off the field. I said value. That doesn't mean assaulting me with flashing lights and constant music and whatever the heck else.

Although I will say I would like them to keep the ol' 12 inch pinch intact. Something about crowding everyone in closer makes it more intimidating to me, and I've never had a problem with it. My "I've been around here too long" hill to die on, I guess.

Everything you've said here mirrors my opinion exactly.

Want to know how to make the "experience" better? Win ballgames. That is all you have to do. When this team wins, there aren't enough seats in the stadium. I remember getting gifted a ticket to the Oklahoma game in 2015, and I was elated. Why, you ask? Oh, because every ticket was already sold, and they were going for hundreds of dollars on the secondary market.

I hate Sterl the Perl as a DJ. They guy is horrendously obnoxious, and the blaring music just doesn't feel like a college football atmosphere. To open this season, I watched UNC at VT, and you know what was refreshing? You could hear the band, the drumline was popping, and the fans were juiced. That is college football.

Oh well, 32 year old man rant over.
 
Bring back a winning program and there will be waiting lists to get into that stadium, even if it seats more than 100k, just like it was over 20 years ago.

Vol fans are starving for a relevant, top 10 program. Give it to us and AIS won't be a problem anymore.
 
Having the "BIGGEST" stadium doesn't matter if you can't fill the seats. Not a good look to see so many empty seats on t.v. For me, if capacity dropped just below a 100k, I wouldn't care. GBO!!!
It’s not so much the size but the noise. Neyland deafening in the 80s at a smaller capacity. But adding all these club seats in what used to be prime seats is what kills me. The Tennessee terrace used to be great affordable seats that blue collar fans could enjoy now it’s an abomination
 
They just announced a new pricing plan for season tickets that lowers or removes donation requirements for large areas of the stadium. The AD is making the game more affordable not less.

I read that news too. I’ll believe it when I see it.
 
It’s not so much the size but the noise. Neyland deafening in the 80s at a smaller capacity. But adding all these club seats in what used to be prime seats is what kills me. The Tennessee terrace used to be great affordable seats that blue collar fans could enjoy now it’s an abomination
World hunger is an abomination. Seating upgrades are just the way things go in response to a demand for premium seating.
 
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I don't care if it's 102,455 sitting, or 100,000 sitting and 2,455 standing, or 98,000 sitting and 2,455 standing and 2,000 working as vendors and maintenance staff, or whatever the hell it is.

Doesn't matter how they add up. Only important to me that they continue to add up to some number > 100,000. Neyland's full capacity needs to remain over 100,000. I think that's important.

Within that restriction, Danny can fancy the place up all he likes. I'm all for it.

Go Vols!
 
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They just announced a new pricing plan for season tickets that lowers or removes donation requirements for large areas of the stadium. The AD is making the game more affordable not less.

I think that this is somewhat true, but also somewhat off.

The new pricing plan re-institutes a donation requirement for all seats, but folds it in with your ticket purchase in a way that is supposed to make ticket sales more uniform.

Essentially it does away with the old grandfathering policy where people who had these legacy tickets that dated back decades were allowed to continue purchasing their same seats without any donation requirement. So, some people will see a reduction in their ticket prices, but others will see an astronomical increase, especially those who had seats in areas that will be converted to club seats.

It will make some people happy, and it will make some people mad. BUT, it makes sense from a business angle, because I believe the percentage I heard was in the neighborhood of 45% of season ticket holders did not pay a donation. Theoretically I could see that being a large boon to the University coffers.
 
I don't care if it's 102,455 sitting, or 100,000 sitting and 2,455 standing, or 98,000 sitting and 2,455 standing and 2,000 working as vendors and maintenance staff, or whatever the hell it is.

Doesn't matter how they add up. Only important to me that they continue to add up to some number > 100,000. Neyland's full capacity needs to remain over 100,000. I think that's important.

Within that restriction, Danny can fancy the place up all he likes. I'm all for it.

Go Vols!

If the renderings that they have put out there on the Myall website (or whatever it's called) are what they actually implement, capacity will be well below 100,000.

They are going to cut out a large swath of the north endzone upper deck to put in a video board and a terrace/pavilion area. They are going to put chairbacks across the lower west sideline. I see no way that capacity doesn't drop down near 90k or less with reductions like that.
 
Not really. In 2021 it's a completely arbitrary number. Recruits don't go anywhere because of the stadium seating capacity. Neyland was loud when it was 92,000 too. I'd much rather take seating capacity back and have a more comfortable stadium to sit in.
No thanks.
 
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As much of a fan as I am of UT hiring Danny White, this is one area that I saw potential downside.
At the heart of it all, Danny White is an executive and every executive in the world has to eventually answer for the bottom line.
A huge part of the UTAD's bottom line is football revenue generation.

A team that consistently challenges to go to Atlanta would go a lonnnnng way to help that bottom line....
 
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World hunger is an abomination. Seating upgrades are just the way things go in response to a demand for premium seating.
I guess I’m a bad person but people ruining our stadium keeps me up at night a whole lot worse than world hunger. I also think you are overstating the existing demand for such things. The AD is trying to think of ways to squeeze more money out of us by reducing the amount of seats which will drive up prices. Most Tennessee fans I know prefer their bleacher seat anyway because they’d rather stand like proper fans. We already have that stupid terrace for people that aren’t emotionally invested.
 
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If the renderings that they have put out there on the Myall website (or whatever it's called) are what they actually implement, capacity will be well below 100,000.

They are going to cut out a large swath of the north endzone upper deck to put in a video board and a terrace/pavilion area. They are going to put chairbacks across the lower west sideline. I see no way that capacity doesn't drop down near 90k or less with reductions like that.
I don’t want to go to a freaking country club garden party at Knoxville. I want THUNDERDOME!!!!!
 
If the renderings that they have put out there on the Myall website (or whatever it's called) are what they actually implement, capacity will be well below 100,000.

They are going to cut out a large swath of the north endzone upper deck to put in a video board and a terrace/pavilion area. They are going to put chairbacks across the lower west sideline. I see no way that capacity doesn't drop down near 90k or less with reductions like that.
It’s gonna sound like DKR when they are done. Talk about a quiet stadium with a bunch of entitled limp wrist fans
 
Everything you've said here mirrors my opinion exactly.

Want to know how to make the "experience" better? Win ballgames. That is all you have to do. When this team wins, there aren't enough seats in the stadium. I remember getting gifted a ticket to the Oklahoma game in 2015, and I was elated. Why, you ask? Oh, because every ticket was already sold, and they were going for hundreds of dollars on the secondary market.

I hate Sterl the Perl as a DJ. They guy is horrendously obnoxious, and the blaring music just doesn't feel like a college football atmosphere. To open this season, I watched UNC at VT, and you know what was refreshing? You could hear the band, the drumline was popping, and the fans were juiced. That is college football.

Oh well, 32 year old man rant over.

100% solid. And as someone else who got to go to the Oklahoma game, congrats. What a day. The best home game crowd of the past decade. Glad you got to be there for that.

I swear there are some folks who work in live events (some, I've encountered all sorts in my work but) who become possessed of this idea that young people are easily distracted and have short attention spans (but they need to capture the young crowd so), and furthermore silence or downtime is "bad." I think a lot of people just want to drive to the game, hear the band, talk with their friends, see big bright blue skies and bright orange jerseys, hear the pads pop, smell the fall air, maybe grab a hot dog -- and watch a football game. I know that's what I want. I don't need to be pampered. Make it easier to walk around outside the stadium, maybe improve the concessions lines, but stop trying to orchestrate every single minute and moment of the day. Stop trying to cram noise in every free second you can find. And if you want music, use the band. I came for the band. Give me the band. Stop trying to orchestrate my enjoyment. I've enjoyed things just fine for twenty five years now, thanks.
 
I don't care if it's 102,455 sitting, or 100,000 sitting and 2,455 standing, or 98,000 sitting and 2,455 standing and 2,000 working as vendors and maintenance staff, or whatever the hell it is.

Doesn't matter how they add up. Only important to me that they continue to add up to some number > 100,000. Neyland's full capacity needs to remain over 100,000. I think that's important.

Within that restriction, Danny can fancy the place up all he likes. I'm all for it.

Go Vols!
If the 20k fans who quit going to games because they're butthurt about not getting the coach they wanted don't come back soon, kiss 100k goodbye.

Everyone has the choice to do what they want with their time and money. But there are consequences for those choices
 
I think that this is somewhat true, but also somewhat off.

The new pricing plan re-institutes a donation requirement for all seats, but folds it in with your ticket purchase in a way that is supposed to make ticket sales more uniform.

Essentially it does away with the old grandfathering policy where people who had these legacy tickets that dated back decades were allowed to continue purchasing their same seats without any donation requirement. So, some people will see a reduction in their ticket prices, but others will see an astronomical increase, especially those who had seats in areas that will be converted to club seats.

It will make some people happy, and it will make some people mad. BUT, it makes sense from a business angle, because I believe the percentage I heard was in the neighborhood of 45% of season ticket holders did not pay a donation. Theoretically I could see that being a large boon to the University coffers.
You can get a full season ticket for as little as $300. How much cheaper do you expect it to be?
 
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