Coronavirus (No politics)

Not trying to be political or talk about the vaccine, just wondering how do employers deal with employees that come in sick and say it’s just bronchitis or have a temperature and say it’s not Covid. I would imagine larger companies have a protocol they follow but in a smaller company what happens? I saw this and wondered how companies are dealing with this type of issue?

There's a big difference between the expectation of high wage companies and low wage companies, and then what you might call "highly ethical" companies and bozo the clown companies. There's a big spectrum out there.

There are two overarching principles that might apply broadly:
1. You'd have to be an idiot, at this point, to come in sick or with a fever. There's an IQ test there. 99% of people are gonna pass it under these circumstances.
2. everything sticky and personal gets bumped down to first line supervision. Of the 1% of people that are dumb enough to come in, 99% of those people are going to go home if their direct boss tells them to right now. That's how they handle everything like this.

The hairier question was whether to come to work or not when you're not sick yet. They told us 18 months ago that people were spreading it a week before they got symptoms. We dealt with that for a year already, and it's actually a pretty complex patchwork of ideas. Rules about guessing whether you had Covid, and there were a lot of them, are actually stripped away now. Initially, Tennessee was waaaaay behind the curve, so you could just tell people not to come in after they'd been traveling. But after a while, that wasn't meaningful anymore, and we had to go by contact with people that you think or maybe know have Covid. And then we had testing, and then we had vaccines. All this development and change was mixed in with periods of working from home, and periods where you weren't allowed to have a meeting, and then you were, and then as the vaccines got less effective, you weren't.
 
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The medical community has had enough of people not taking Covid seriously.
Every local news station neeeds to do this.

 
I have never heard of anything like this happening before.

The entire state of Idaho is under a do not resuscitate order, that’s for everyone, not just Covid patients.

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I have never heard of anything like this happening before.

The entire state of Idaho is under a do not resuscitate order, that’s for everyone, not just Covid patients.
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I am not sure about the entire state being under a universal DNR order...it sounds as though there are references to it in the Crisis Standards of Care, but the article linked below does a good job explaining the situation. Regardless...reaching that point, universal DNR or not, is bad news.

No, Idaho is not under a ‘universal DNR.' Hospitals won’t just let everyone die. - Idaho Capital Sun
 
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I am not sure about the entire state being under a universal DNR order...it sounds as though there are references to it in the Crisis Standards of Care, but the article linked below does a good job explaining the situation. Regardless...reaching that point, universal DNR or not, is bad news.

No, Idaho is not under a ‘universal DNR.' Hospitals won’t just let everyone die. - Idaho Capital Sun
That definitely makes sense and the article lays out the framework for “worst case scenario”. My hospital had to borrow a couple older vents from another hospital about 150 miles away. Maintenance went to pick them up, I’m guessing just with a pickup truck, but anyhow, they didn’t secure them well for transport. Now, we have two loaner vents, held together in part with ratchet straps. 🤦🏼‍♂️
 
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I am not sure about the entire state being under a universal DNR order...it sounds as though there are references to it in the Crisis Standards of Care, but the article linked below does a good job explaining the situation. Regardless...reaching that point, universal DNR or not, is bad news.

No, Idaho is not under a ‘universal DNR.' Hospitals won’t just let everyone die. - Idaho Capital Sun
Hmmm, I guess it's a good thing I went into cardiac arrest in 2019, 3 days after surgery in a Nashville hospital. Everything went black, and I was gone . The next thing I knew there were several people around me. One holding paddles and another holding something over my mouth and nose. I can relate.
 
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Hmmm, I guess it's a good thing I went into cardiac arrest in 2019, 3 days after surgery in a Nashville hospital. Everything went black, and I was gone . The next thing I knew there were several people around me. One holding paddles and another holding something over my mouth and nose. I can relate.

I can't imagine what that must've been like...hopefully you're in much better health these days!
 
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That definitely makes sense and the article lays out the framework for “worst case scenario”. My hospital had to borrow a couple older vents from another hospital about 150 miles away. Maintenance went to pick them up, I’m guessing just with a pickup truck, but anyhow, they didn’t secure them well for transport. Now, we have two loaner vents, held together in part with ratchet straps. 🤦🏼‍♂️

Oh man...oof. That is rough...I'd imagine moving sensitive medical equipment via pickup is a little different than hauling a pickup order from Home Depot or Grainger.

That makes me wonder how the trials for some of the prototype rapid-production vents I'd heard about in 2020 went, like the one from Colombia below.

Coronavirus: Raspberry Pi-powered ventilator to be tested in Colombia

I'm sure it would vary from country to country in terms of what sort of certification or testing the field-expedient equipment would need (from a regulatory/liability standpoint), but things like that story restore a little faith in humanity's ingenuity at the very least.
 
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Are you asking a serious question? It’s basically a heart/lung bypass machine. Super expensive. Very delicate and dangerous procedure. Requires specialized staff to operate and maintain. We got hospitals that don’t even offer L&D services. ECMO would be low on most lists.
Thanks, I wasn’t familiar with the procedure until reading the article.
 
I am a PT in Virginia and wife is ER nurse- seeing both. I have seen, since you mentioned your local level, multiple home health patients who had been vaccinated and had adverse reactions. I have had it twice, first case pretty nasty, second case mild symptoms. I have seen, and continue to see, patients with COVID and have had no issues. I guess time will tell us more. What did you think of the premise of the paper?
 
I am a PT in Virginia and wife is ER nurse- seeing both. I have seen, since you mentioned your local level, multiple home health patients who had been vaccinated and had adverse reactions. I have had it twice, first case pretty nasty, second case mild symptoms. I have seen, and continue to see, patients with COVID and have had no issues. I guess time will tell us more. What did you think of the premise of the paper?
I think the premise of the paper was to say that the vaccinated and unvaccinated both can spread the virus at the same rate, which may be 100% correct, but that isn’t having a positive or blunting effect on who is, by and large, taking up critical care beds here locally.
 
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The guy seems to cherry pick a hodgepodge of info.
"Iceland is currently experiencing their highest rate of morbidity "

Iceland 11,000 cases (3%), 33 deaths (.009%) total Population 370k
USA 42m cases (13%), 674k deaths (.2%). Population 330m.
Knox county, TN 71k cases, 784 deaths. Population about 500k
 
So here's my covid story. Wife was vax in January (she works at erlanger) I was vexed 6 weeks ago today (j&j).wife got what seemed like a cold Thursday night, Friday morning still coughing so she stayed home, but no fever and no breathing issues. Wifes boss calls her around noon Friday and states she just tested positive(boss is also vaxed). Wife goes to get tested and it comes back negative even though they both have same symptoms. So my thought is one result is wrong. I get home test from CVS and the wife is positive and I'm negative. And I'm negative Saturday and Sunday with zero symptoms. Wake up this moring with a sore throat...positive. went and got a rapid test at Erlanger Express to make sure. Positve. Now I'm home for 10 days. My symptoms are sore throat, slight cough, stuffy nose and tired. No fever and oxygen levels are good.

If not for covid being here I would have thought sinus issues.
 
So here's my covid story. Wife was vax in January (she works at erlanger) I was vexed 6 weeks ago today (j&j).wife got what seemed like a cold Thursday night, Friday morning still coughing so she stayed home, but no fever and no breathing issues. Wifes boss calls her around noon Friday and states she just tested positive(boss is also vaxed). Wife goes to get tested and it comes back negative even though they both have same symptoms. So my thought is one result is wrong. I get home test from CVS and the wife is positive and I'm negative. And I'm negative Saturday and Sunday with zero symptoms. Wake up this moring with a sore throat...positive. went and got a rapid test at Erlanger Express to make sure. Positve. Now I'm home for 10 days. My symptoms are sore throat, slight cough, stuffy nose and tired. No fever and oxygen levels are good.

If not for covid being here I would have thought sinus issues.
Stay on top of it for you and your wife. Hopefully you’ll get no worse, but many cases start out with mild symptoms and then get worse from there over 3-4 days.
 
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I wonder how many were offered the antibody treatment or is it being rationed in that area
It would be very hard to guess based on just the info in the article. Many people, either due to symptom severity or length of time since the onset of symptoms, are not candidates for antibody therapy.
 
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