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In this situation I’m the one conceding the number to a larger degree. Those shoes might be bringing on dementia

Between the CDC info and the data spouse's company gets to monitor COVID/vaccine incentives for companies nationwide, the vaccine is effective. It's not perfect but the reduction in serious cases shows the effectiveness of the vaccine.

I'm of the belief there's likely same gaming of the reported information based on whether its a red or blue state.
 
Between the CDC info and the data spouse's company gets to monitor COVID/vaccine incentives for companies nationwide, the vaccine is effective. It's not perfect but the reduction in serious cases shows the effectiveness of the vaccine.

I'm of the belief there's likely same gaming of the reported information based on whether its a red or blue state.
Sadly true
 
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Update on the twins. Please continue to pray for them.
The first two screenshots are updates I received yesterday. 5:13 is timestamp, and my friend said it took more than one pic.
The last one is from today just before 5:00 on timestamp.
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As a mom. (As a human being.) I can’t even imagine.

Endless 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 up for both of them, and for their family and loved ones.

Please everyone, protect yourselves and your loved ones. Leave the arguments for another day. 😢😢😢
 
As a mom. (As a human being.) I can’t even imagine.

Endless 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Up for both of them, and for their family and loved ones.

Please everyone, protect yourselves and your loved ones. Leave the arguments for another day. 😢😢😢

I cannot imagine as a parent either.

What I bolded is sage advice for everyone.
 
As a mom. (As a human being.) I can’t even imagine.

Endless 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Up for both of them, and for their family and loved ones.

Please everyone, protect yourselves and your loved ones. Leave the arguments for another day. 😢😢😢
This is one time I’m speechless. As a mom I cannot imagine what that mother is going through, not just one of her children, but both at the same time. I wish I could just hug her. 😞
 
I just came across this. I’m so confused. Why would people try this, when there is clear evidence of a different preventive, with fewer side effects, that works so much better? Are people now so polarized in their beliefs?

The shaky science behind ivermectin as a COVID-19 cure
What exactly are the clear evidence of different preventatives with fewer side effects that work so much better. Serious question because there have been tested treatments that were working but were dismissed by political pressure.
 
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What exactly are the clear evidence of different preventatives with fewer side effects that work so much better. Serious question because there have been tested treatments that were working but were dismissed by political pressure.
Well, I’m talking about preventives, to reduce chances of infection, rather than treatments, once someone is infected. I’m not going there. But apparently people are using ivermectin as a preventive. It’s impossible to show that vaccinations don’t reduce the risk of infection, and their side effects, when they happen, are almost always relatively mild. Low fever, body aches, feeling like crap, flu-like symptoms. Almost always for a day or two, rarely up to a week. Meanwhile, ivermectin, used as a preventive, has side effects including sometimes hospitalization, and there is no evidence that it works as a preventive. Yes, its use is being explored and tested, but results so far are nowhere close to matching the effectiveness of vaccines.

The NatGeo article is pretty readable. I don’t think it’s behind a firewall, although of course they like to pop up warnings.

But again, when you’re trying to protect your loved ones, why do we have to get sidetracked by political debates, as you mentioned (political pressure)? Wouldn’t we just grab the sturdy rope, and debate the one star vs five star ratings later, once we’re on dry ground?

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I just came across this. I’m so confused. Why would people try this, when there is clear evidence of a different preventive, with fewer side effects, that works so much better? Are people now so polarized in their beliefs?

The shaky science behind ivermectin as a COVID-19 cure
I am afraid so.
When the determination to be right about something or to be validated overtakes all else, nobody focuses on solutions/resolutions = where we are.
 
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I just came across this. I’m so confused. Why would people try this, when there is clear evidence of a different preventive, with fewer side effects, that works so much better? Are people now so polarized in their beliefs?

The shaky science behind ivermectin as a COVID-19 cure
People are just scared, stupid and misinformed and when you get a mix, you get this. The virus, the fear of the unknown on everything, the preventive measures at first and then the usage of the whole mess as a political tool on both sides, you get to where we are now. It’s past the stage of becoming polarized.
 
Well, I’m talking about preventives, to reduce chances of infection, rather than treatments, once someone is infected. I’m not going there. But apparently people are using invermectin as a preventive. It’s impossible to show that vaccinations don’t reduce the risk of infection, and their side effects, when they happen, are almost always relatively mild. Low fever, body aches, feeling like crap, flu-like symptoms. Almost always for a day or two, rarely up to a week. Meanwhile, invermectin, used as a preventive, has side effects including sometimes hospitalization, and there is no evidence that it works as a preventive. Yes, its use is being explored and tested, but results so far are nowhere close to matching the effectiveness of vaccines.

The NatGeo article is pretty readable. I don’t think it’s behind a firewall, although of course they like to pop up warnings.

But again, when you’re trying to protect your loved ones, why do we have to get sidetracked by political debates, as you mentioned (political pressure)? Wouldn’t we just grab the sturdy rope, and debate the one star vs five star ratings later, once we’re on dry ground?
But when you have a has been celebrity (Joe Rogan) touting it’s effectiveness, it suddenly becomes news worthy again. Old woman is gingerly getting off her soap box.
 
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