Coronavirus (No politics)

[mrMet]

Odd - I’ve only seen it compared to other respiratory virus vaccines like the flu shot although I’ve no doubt there are some simpletons who can’t see the difference in Covid and polio

There’s more than “some.” But I guess it’s predominately from Twitter and Instagram. But I digress. Nobody is changing their mind on the issue. Ultimately people need to take responsibility for their own health

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

They’ve already been through that here. Very few balked at the requirement and just quit. The vast majority were already vaccinated and most of the holdouts went along with it.

Unfortunately that's true. Many will take the vaccine that they don't need and that doesn't help them to keep their job. But it's stupid to mandate it and even dumber not to take natural immunity into account. It's not science.

 

[Tnslim1]

Oh you think the virus is fake ok

Your reading comprehension skills are sadly lacking. Just where in my post did I claim the virus to be fake? China built this virus and purposely released it on our populace to do one thing only. They have no problems killing several hundred thousand of our citizens not counting the millions worldwide.

 

[chrismc1000]

Your reading comprehension skills are sadly lacking. Just where in my post did I claim the virus to be fake? China built this virus and purposely released it on our populace to do one thing only. They have no problems killing several hundred thousand of our citizens not counting the millions worldwide.

i read just fine your comments is what I responded to. Maybe say something more clear next time? No need to be upset

 

[MAD]

*People, if nothing else, listen to this married couple that were against the vaccine but are begging you not to make the same mistakes they did.

He's diseased. She's deceased. They regret the quackery.

He will have to live with the consequences of believing propaganda and likely being the cause of his wife's death. The disinformation campaigns are willfully suborning mass murder.
They both changed their ways-- she told her friends to get vaccinated before she died. It's one thing if you're still socials-screaming about Ivermectin on your death bed, but if you figure out you've been duped and try to save others, it's a much sadder thing. They chose to trust the wrong people, and it cost them. At least they recognized and admitted it before it was too late for others to hear them, even if it’s still too late to save their lives.

Also the nerve of someone responding to her post still begging them not to get the vaccine and only listen to truther channels for their news.

 

[Vjcvette]

I just heard a story today about a man that needed a gallbladder operation and there were no beds
available in Texas because of all of the covid patients and they checked in other states also and
by the time they found him a bed seven days later, it was too late and he passed away and what
a sad story to hear about when he could have lived if there was a bed available for him.

 

[davethevol]

I just heard a story today about a man that needed a gallbladder operation and there were no beds
available in Texas because of all of the covid patients and they checked in other states also and
by the time they found him a bed seven days later, it was too late and he passed away and what
a sad story to hear about when he could have lived if there was a bed available for him.

It’s too bad that hospitals in Texas fired a bunch of nurses because they didn’t get vaccinated.

 

[Vjcvette]

It’s too bad that hospitals in Texas fired a bunch of nurses because they didn’t get vaccinated.

Its sad when anyone gets fired, but when you have a mass epidemic in order to be successful you have to fight it with everything that you have. That is how
we eradicated smallpox and polio, everyone got vaccinated.

 

[vollygirl]

It’s too bad that hospitals in Texas fired a bunch of nurses because they didn’t get vaccinated.

It's too bad people don't care about the nurses.....

"By the way, I just talked to a friend of mine whose wife works at Erlanger Hospital here in Chattanooga – she works exclusively with the Covid patients.

He told me that 100% of the patients being admitted into the hospital for Covid are unvaccinated. He also mentioned that most of them are under 50 years old."

 

[MAD]

What gets me is how healthcare workers were considered heroes at the beginning of the pandemic, people would stand outside and applaud them as they were leaving hospitals and heading home. Unfortunately that’s seemed to have stopped and so many are now being treated like criminals and with so much distrust and suspicion.

From an ICU nurse in the south, “I hear the conspiracies from the mouths of patients and families everyday.”

Honestly even when the patients eventually come around their families do not. They remain in defiant and hateful denial and I’ve never experienced this type of mistrust in the ICU before from patients and families. When you combine this attitude with the astronomical death rate it’s absolutely devastating our mental health. Anyway, some of the most common conspiracies I’ve personally been told include:

“You have [personally] or the Chinese government has infected the Covid testing swab so I refuse a Covid test for fear of becoming infected.” -Once I was working (pulled) into the ER and this happened to a child so we had to get a court order for a Covid test so the child could have his appendix surgically removed and thus not die from appendicitis. A Covid test is required for surgery at my hospital.

“You are vaccinated and thus I or my family is at risk from catching Covid from you.” Also, “I am not taking the vaccine because it will give me Covid” is pretty common.

“Covid is not real. What ever happened to the flu??” -If I never hear this one again it will be too soon. This is by far the most common and it is stated in a sarcastic and accusatory way by people and close family who are days/hours from death.

“I’ve already had Covid 1-3x and thus my husband cannot possibly be this sick from it or I personally cannot possibly be this sick from it because I/they have immunity forever.”

“You don’t know what the **** you’re talking about!” -Several patients have said this to me and it’s the last thing they ever said to anyone.

“You’re just lying to profit from the government. That’s why you won’t let us visit. I’m calling the police.” -They actually do. The police have stopped responding in person but the do call us and let us know.

“The doctor said it was PNEUMONIA not COVID. Lying bitch.” -It’s Covid pneumonia.

 

[MAD]

This is an informative explanation on ivermectin.

 

[SDV]

Happy to report that my 74 year old mom finally got her 1st shot of Moderna today. She told me that it was based primarily on Phil Valentine’s death. Im sorry that he lost his life, but glad that she finally came to her senses and realized that this is not political

 

[walkenvol]

CDC asks the unvaccinated not to travel this weekend and says even vaccinated need to weigh the risk — CNN

Bet this will get zero traction with the unvaccinated crowd

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

CDC asks the unvaccinated not to travel this weekend and says even vaccinated need to weigh the risk — CNN

Bet this will get zero traction with the unvaccinated croud

of course not. if he really wants to depoliticize things and open minds, Biden needs to replace Fauci with someone who does not carry the taint of political bias. the message could be the same, but too many people do not trust the messenger.

 

[vols 30]

CDC asks the unvaccinated not to travel this weekend and says even vaccinated need to weigh the risk — CNN

Bet this will get zero traction with the unvaccinated croud

They stopped reading after CDC

 

[walkenvol]

of course not. if he really wants to depoliticize things and open minds, Biden needs to replace Fauci with someone who does not carry the taint of political bias. the message could be the same, but too many people do not trust the messenger.

Folks have dug in so deep on this one that I can’t imagine replacing Fauci would make any difference

 

[vollygirl]

of course not. if he really wants to depoliticize things and open minds, Biden needs to replace Fauci with someone who does not carry the taint of political bias. the message could be the same, but too many people do not trust the messenger.

Fauci didn't politicize anything, people did that.

 

[davethevol]

CDC asks the unvaccinated not to travel this weekend and says even vaccinated need to weigh the risk — CNN

Bet this will get zero traction with the unvaccinated crowd

Will it get traction the vaccinated since they can still spread the virus?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Fauci didn't politicize anything, people did that.

LOL

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

CDC asks the unvaccinated not to travel this weekend and says even vaccinated need to weigh the risk — CNN

Bet this will get zero traction with the unvaccinated crowd

Of course not. It ignores science and is still trying to segregate people based upon a vaccine that does not stop transmission.

But why don't you trust the CDC? They're all about science!

 

[kingkisses]

There’s a greater chance of a healthy child having a bad reaction to the vaccine than any trouble with Covid. Covid as it is doesn’t really harm healthy non overweight people. It’s not sensible for a young person to take the same approach as a vulnerable person. If you are actually at risk you probably shouldn’t be going to a place like Neyland.

It's not only about you. Even if you do not get sick, it can affect others. It's not always about you.

 

[kingkisses]

The issue is not whether the virus is lethal to you or the broader population. The issue is that it is lethal to some, especially people with preexisting or immutable conditions.

I hate Fauci and blame him for politicizing his position and science. For instance, his hypocrisy surrounding BLM riots is unforgivable and distasteful. Then, he blamed individuals for politicizing science and questioning his many missteps. We need to ignore this quack and go back to separating politics and science.

As I said, the issue is not whether COVID will kill you or even most of the population. The issue is that it is extremely dangerous to some, many of our neighbors and communities, and we must protect these individuals from preventable deaths.

We need to understand the real threat of COVID. Let’s admit that COVID is not as lethal as Polio. No one, not the scientific community, politicians, nor Fauci is arguing that. The danger of COVID is not how lethal it is per se but rather its transmissibility. For argument, let’s say a disease kills 1/1000 people. If only 1000 people are exposed to it, then one person will die. However, if 1,000,000 people are exposed, the death toll will be at 1000. That's why we are wearing masks and getting vaccines. To reduce the transmission vectors.

COVID's transmissibility is also the driving force for new variants. Chances of virus mutation (or "evolution") is directly related to the number of cases. This is because more people it infects, more likely that it will change and adapt. It's like a person becoming more likely to be a different person after meeting more and different people. In all, so, COVID's death rate isn't what makes it dangerous. COVID’s unprecedented combination of lethality and transmissibility is what makes it so dangerous.

COVID may not be lethal to most people, but it is extremely lethal to certain groups, including the aged and those born with certain conditions. Therefore, to approach COVID from a personal angle may not be best. Rather, it’s easier to view masks and vaccines as protection for our neighbors and communities. If I can wear a mask for a few months and get vaccinated to save a life, I am more than willing to sacrifice my right to not wear a mask.

In any case, this is humanity 101. If this is too hard, then I don’t know what to say.

 

[MAD]

 

[82_VOL_83]

SIAP, Bama at 100% vax.

 

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