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[Rickyvol77]

So she thinks that new nurse ( I won’t say graduates because in many places during the pandemic pre graduates were allowed to practice) will be able to serve as well as tenured nurses. Yep and as a new graduate engineer I knew everything that needed to be known

She’s wrong as most tik tok experts are

 

[Septic]

So... I've been keeping ya'll updated on my county's health system, anecdotally to the conversation.

SWFL and particularly Lee (Fort Myers) and Collier county (Naples) have been strugglin' to keep pace with what is the wildest of the wild west here in DeSantis' middle finger to any semblance of risk mitigation.

Lee Health using storage space and doubling patients up due to COVID-19 surge at 639 patients

Lee Health was operating at 100% capacity of staffed beds on Monday with 639 patients, including 15 children, hospitalized with COVID-19.

We're in deep red country down here and the school system board just bucked DeSantis' mask "opt out" mandate. I'm sure some red hat Karen's will be Facebook outraged and threatening to recall the board post haste.

 

[Septic]

She’s wrong as most tik tok experts are

She should join VN and jump on the political forum. Instant street cred and unquestionable expertise in all things.

I'm just saying, at least she's not on an anonymous forum.

 

[MG1968]

So... I've been keeping ya'll updated on my county's health system, anecdotally to the conversation.

SWFL and particularly Lee (Fort Myers) and Collier county (Naples) have been strugglin' to keep pace with what is the wildest of the wild west here in DeSantis' middle finger to any semblance of risk mitigation.

Lee Health using storage space and doubling patients up due to COVID-19 surge at 639 patients



We're in deep red country down here and the school system board just bucked DeSantis' mask "opt out" mandate. I'm sure some red hat Karen's will be Facebook outraged and threatening to recall the board post haste.

“Staffed” beds is crucial here. Desantis isn’t responsible for nursing shortages.

 

[Septic]

“Staffed” beds is crucial here. Desantis isn’t responsible for nursing shortages.

The 'staffed' beds isn't the get out of jail free card you think it is for DeSantis. They're literally talking about putting people in conference rooms and cafeterias. He's definitely responsible for making informed decisions about his constituents need for adequate health care. He's no longer the hero he once was here in Florida because he continues to snub the experts.

Anyhoo. Capacity is capacity and it's being driven almost exclusively by the unvaccinated.

 

[MG1968]

The 'staffed' beds isn't the get out of jail free card you think it is for DeSantis. They're literally talking about putting people in conference rooms and cafeterias. He's definitely responsible for making informed decisions about his constituents need for adequate health care. He's no longer the hero he once was here in Florida because he continues to snub the experts.

Anyhoo. Capacity is capacity and it's being driven almost exclusively by the unvaccinated.

Just like it was last year.

 

[Septic]

Just like it was last year.

Not here. It was never this bad...

 

[newyorkvol]

Delta Variant Infection Doubles Odds of COVID Hospitalization: Study - Docwire News

 

[MG1968]

Not here. It was never this bad...

Maybe the hospital operators shouldn’t have treated their staff like rented government mules. The most under appreciated group of people in the US today are last year’s “essential” workers. But again, Desantis isn’t responsible for that.

 

[allvol123]

Delta Variant Infection Doubles Odds of COVID Hospitalization: Study - Docwire News

And once again, dont include previously infected as a category for study.

I could just as easily conclude how stupid it was to lock down and limit Alpha infections, which then made more people susceptible to Delta.

 

[Septic]

Maybe the hospital operators shouldn’t have treated their staff like rented government mules. The most under appreciated group of people in the US today are last year’s “essential” workers. But again, Desantis isn’t responsible for that.

Like I said, he's responsible for taking understaffing into consideration when making policy decisions. "Not my problem" isn't a great reelection slogan when your policy's snub the fact that your constituents aren't able to get treated.

When hospitals are treating people in hallways and conference rooms, it's a stretch to call the capacity issue a staffing problem.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Like I said, he's responsible for taking understaffing into consideration when making policy decisions. "Not my problem" isn't a great reelection slogan when your policy's snub the fact that your constituents aren't able to get treated.

When hospitals are treating people in hallways and conference rooms, it's a stretch to call the capacity issue a staffing problem.

Not really. But I’m sure that will be a Democrat talking point during the campaign.

 

[allvol123]

Like I said, he's responsible for taking understaffing into consideration when making policy decisions. "Not my problem" isn't a great reelection slogan when your policy's snub the fact that your constituents aren't able to get treated.

When hospitals are treating people in hallways and conference rooms, it's a stretch to call the capacity issue a staffing problem.

What policy was wrong?

 

[Septic]

Not really. But I’m sure that will be a Democrat talking point during the campaign.

Do you search for the worst possible take and blurt it out or does it just come naturally?

Seriously, how are facts not relevant to a politician making informed decisions?

 

[hog88]

Sure these drugs are used in both animals and humans. I was merely pointing out that buying the pill that was specifically designed for a horse, sheep, goat, or any nonhuman and ingesting it to self medicate would make one a moron. Even kiddie doc said that would make you a Darwin Award winner. Yet people are doing it. I have no problem with a doctor prescribing anything they think their patient needs to recover.

How are they doing it? You can't walk into TSC, the co-op or a vets office and buy prescription medications without a prescription, even for animals.

 

[Septic]

What policy was wrong?

Most recently? His mask opt out mandate was overturned in court.

In the mean time, his reddest of red county's are jumping on it to re-mandate masks in schools in effort to cut down the spike in covid+ children.

 

[Orangeslice13]

HCQ is essentially Plaquenil.

Yes.
Edit: plaquenil is the name brand HCQ is the generic name

 

[allvol123]

Most recently? His mask opt out mandate was overturned in court.

In the mean time, his reddest of red county's are jumping on it to re-mandate masks in schools in effort to cut down the spike in covid+ children.

Lol. So the hospitals are in the shape they are because he isnt mandating masks.

Lol, do better.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Do you search for the worst possible take and blurt it out or does it just come naturally?

Seriously, how are facts not relevant to a politician making informed decisions?

That isn’t what you said. You implied that hospital staffing levels should arbitrarily drive policy decisions. That’s tacitly stupid.

And the hot take in your first sentence is laughable based on the post I relied to.

 

[LouderVol]

Most recently? His mask opt out mandate was overturned in court.

In the mean time, his reddest of red county's are jumping on it to re-mandate masks in schools in effort to cut down the spike in covid+ children.

Are the Covid kids driving hospital numbers?

 

[allvol123]

Are the Covid kids driving hospital numbers?

Evidently.

Cant believe this is still a talking point.

 

[Septic]

That isn’t what you said. You implied that hospital staffing levels should arbitrarily drive policy decisions. That’s tacitly stupid.

And the hot take in your first sentence is laughable based on the post I relied to.

I implied that facts should be used when making policy decisions, even if it's ones that are inconvenient or "not his problem."

What's tacitly stupid is your constant inability to recognize, process and respond to an argument without misrepresentation.

You didn't answer my question, but I'm leaning towards your hot take failures coming naturally.

 

[Septic]

Lol. So the hospitals are in the shape they are because he isnt mandating masks.

Lol, do better.

I didn't say that, you're conflating arguments. Do better.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I implied that facts should be used when making policy decisions, even if it's ones that are inconvenient or "not his problem."

What's tacitly stupid is your constant inability to recognize, process and respond to an argument without misrepresentation.

You didn't answer my question, but I'm leaning towards your hot take failures coming naturally.

Oh I answered it fine. The statement on hospital staffing driving DeSantis policy decision was specific and stupid. You are now trying to extrapolate that out to a general case. And we can all see it.

 

[Septic]

Are the Covid kids driving hospital numbers?

Who knows, possibly - that's not an argument I was having. Children congregating in close quarters is a hell of a transmission vector I'd imagine, I'm sure it doesn't help when they fan out into the community.