Coronavirus (No politics)

[mrMet]

The biggest problem I have is the people that are pushing the vaccine the hardest never mention one thing about taking essential vitamins, exercising, getting natural sunlight, etc. Instead they incentivize getting this vaccine with beer donuts and unhealthy food. Truly fascinating stuff. And yet some of these people seriously believe everything they say

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

The vaccine is supposed to have efficacy rates in the upper 90%. If it works so well then why are so many vaxxed people getting covid? Or are the vaccines just not as effective as first suspected and then it comes back to why should I get it.

From Moneyball:
"If he's a good hitter, why doesn't he hit good?"

If the vaccine is so good at preventing covid, why doesn't it prevent covid?

My understanding is that the efficacy rate is still that high. However it dropped per type of vaccine based on the Delta variant.

A lot of individuals who got the vaccine who got COVID again are getting the “Delta Variant” of COVID which is much more contagious and has a higher viral load (my understanding)

 

[Pacer92]

The vaccine is supposed to have efficacy rates in the upper 90%. If it works so well then why are so many vaxxed people getting covid? Or are the vaccines just not as effective as first suspected and then it comes back to why should I get it.

From Moneyball:
"If he's a good hitter, why doesn't he hit good?"

If the vaccine is so good at preventing covid, why doesn't it prevent covid?

It’s more than odd that a FDA approved drug of 65 yrs, Hydroxychloroquine, known to combat coronavirus, amongst other diseases...all of the sudden is deemed unsafe after big pharma’s push to vaccinate everyone...

 

[pierce60]

Reported

Much like the University of Tennessee I self-reported….whether I needed to or not

 

[mrMet]

My understanding is that the efficacy rate is still that high. However it dropped per type of vaccine based on the Delta variant.

A lot of individuals who got the vaccine who got COVID again are getting the “Delta Variant” of COVID which is much more contagious and has a higher viral load (my understanding)

Efficacy rate has dropped below 84% for the Pfizer vax

 

[mrMet]

It’s more than odd that a FDA approved drug of 65 yrs, Hydroxychloroquine, known to combat coronavirus, amongst other diseases...all of the sudden is deemed unsafe after big pharma’s push to vaccinate everyone...

Also Ivermectin hasn’t even been considered. Because there’s no money in it for big pharma. But it’s worked in India very well soooooooo

 

[Jackcrevol]

The virus does the same thing as a vaccine, only the vaccine is a milder case. If I already had a case of covid, getting the vaccine is like wearing a condom around the house once my wife is already pregnant.

I'm aware.

1- no one knows accurate level or many antibodies one gets when getting Covid. Vaccine numbers are solid, granted nothing is perfect. Just like getting a booster, really just doubling the already higher efficacy of existing Covid vaccine.

2 - condom argument is over simplification to help make one feel comfortable with their decisioning. like you said, if you feel you can fight it personally, go for it. I chose to get for myself but mostly those at risk around me.

3- if someone told me there were an easy, safe way to protect myself and loved ones thats scientifically been shown to reduce my chances of becoming seriously ill. And it was free, id do it in a heartbeat. And I did.

My friends in ER are telling me majority of people they're seeing right now. To day are unvaxxed people. Take those chances with antibodies. I hope you're safe my friend, I do.

We all know the potential repercussions.

 

[Ten_Titans]

The vaccine is supposed to have efficacy rates in the upper 90%. If it works so well then why are so many vaxxed people getting covid? Or are the vaccines just not as effective as first suspected and then it comes back to why should I get it.

From Moneyball:
"If he's a good hitter, why doesn't he hit good?"

If the vaccine is so good at preventing covid, why doesn't it prevent covid?

10% of hundreds of millions of people is still a lot of people. There's no reason to think efficacy is under 90% just because lots of vaccinated people are getting Covid.

I'm seeing a dangerous number of people assuming because A and B are both possible, A and B must equally likely. "Someone with the vaccine died of Covid, the vaccine is useless." It is impossible to understand an epidemic without some baseline knowledge about probability.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Ivermectin + vitamins will get your over corona in 24 hours

 

[Glitch]

It’s more than odd that a FDA approved drug of 65 yrs, Hydroxychloroquine, known to combat coronavirus, amongst other diseases...all of the sudden is deemed unsafe after big pharma’s push to vaccinate everyone...

 

[Orange Studs]

10% of hundreds of millions of people is still a lot of people. There's no reason to think efficacy is under 90% just because lots of vaccinated people are getting Covid.

I'm seeing a dangerous number of people assuming because A and B are both possible, A and B must equally likely. "Someone with the vaccine died of Covid, the vaccine is useless." It is impossible to understand an epidemic without some baseline knowledge about probability.

Dang you almost sounded smart and knew what you were saying. lol

 

[mrMet]

The scaredy cats should follow Medical Medium on Instagram and learn how to be naturally healthy with no modern medicine. It’ll do ya some good and clear your mind up

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Also Ivermectin hasn’t even been considered. Because there’s no money in it for big pharma. But it’s worked in India very well soooooooo

And then we have regeneron that works really well too!

Promote healthy lifestyles and encourage effective treatments!

I know a lot of these covid casualties are vaccine hesitant older people. Instead of putting in policies to FORCE them to take the vaccine, how about we respect their decision and educate them about the effective treatments we have like ivermectin and regeneron!?

A lot of these people let it get to the point of no return because they've been made skeptical by the politization of the virus. You tell them, hey no vaccine? That's fine, but if you start to get sick, get a test and let's get you on some of these treatments that work really well.

But noooo let's sow the seeds of discord that'll be great for everybody!

 

[MoCo_Vol]

99.5% survival for under 70
99.998% for under 50
99.997% for under 20.

So terrifying

Numbers are wrong, you have to use total number of cases (currently at 213,772, 541 world wide) against total deaths of those cases (4,461,265). Which is roughly a total survival rate of 97.9% It's still really high though. I just wonder if we hadn't shutdown the world for basically 9 months if it would have gotten much worse. Of course quality of life is also important.

Ultimately for me personally I felt it was worth wearing a mask and avoiding people to not chance it. It's not living in fear, I'd love for social distancing to remain a constant I hate people invading my bubble...I also enjoyed not having to smell everyone's breathe with them wearing mask, totally could keep that going to imo.

 

[InstrumentalVol]

Vaccines are lies from the DEVIL thats why polio is still around and children under 20 still have chicken pox. Bunch of ****ing idiots live on this site.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Efficacy rate has dropped below 84% for the Pfizer vax

It’s my understanding this study was done by the UK and wasn’t peer reviewed at all before results were released.

Also; the numbers they are throwing around regarding the Delta variant had a 40+% test population over 65 years old.

 

[mrMet]

And then we have regeneron that works really well too!

Promote healthy lifestyles and encourage effective treatments!

I know a lot of these covid casualties are vaccine hesitant older people. Instead of putting in policies to FORCE them to take the vaccine, how about we respect their decision and educate them about the effective treatments we have like ivermectin and regeneron!?

A lot of these people let it get to the point of no return because they've been made skeptical by the politization of the virus. You tell them, hey no vaccine? That's fine, but if you start to get sick, get a test and let's get you on some of these treatments that work really well.

But noooo let's sow the seeds of discord that'll be great for everybody!

It’s truly fascinating. And very sad. My parents have multiple co-morbidities but they take the essential vitamins they need and get adequate amounts of sunlight and eat relatively decent. They don’t really exercise though. However, they got COVID in 2020 at Christmas and had hardly any symptoms. It’s wild how the basics aren’t covered by the media/politicians/and “health” professionals. It’s all about the $$$$ and has been from the beginning

 

[mrMet]

Numbers are wrong, you have to use total number of cases (currently at 213,772, 541 world wide) against total deaths of those cases (4,461,265). Which is roughly a total survival rate of 97.9% It's still really high though. I just wonder if we hadn't shutdown the world for basically 9 months if it would have gotten much worse. Of course quality of life is also important.

Ultimately for me personally I felt it was worth wearing a mask and avoiding people to not chance it. It's not living in fear, I'd love for social distancing to remain a constant I hate people invading my bubble...I also enjoyed not having to smell everyone's breathe with them wearing mask, totally could keep that going to imo.

Hope you wore a n95 mask because the others available for us peasants are basically worthless with how small the particles of COVID are

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Maybe the 14,456th time we discuss the pros and cons of covid vaccines someone will actually change their stance from one side to the other…

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Hope you wore a n95 mask because the others available for us peasants are basically worthless with how small the particles of COVID are

I didn't. Wore a regular cloth mask and kept my social distancing.

 

[mrMet]

Maybe the 14,456th time we discuss the pros and cons of covid vaccines someone will actually change their stance from one side to the other…

Maybe when we have people that will take personal responsibility for their own health, we wouldn’t have to have the discussion at all

 

[MoCo_Vol]

The biggest problem I have is the people that are pushing the vaccine the hardest never mention one thing about taking essential vitamins, exercising, getting natural sunlight, etc. Instead they incentivize getting this vaccine with beer donuts and unhealthy food. Truly fascinating stuff. And yet some of these people seriously believe everything they say

The FDA does not “approve” dietary supplements because it does not approve foods. I'm also fascinated by the other extreme who preach about how it's not FDA approved but were also trying to buy horse meds to fight off the 'rona... So many people are just straight up stupid in this world.

 

[mrMet]

The FDA does not “approve” dietary supplements because it does not approve foods. I'm also fascinated by the other extreme who preach about how it's not FDA approved but were also trying to buy horse meds to fight off the 'rona... So many people are just straight up stupid in this world.

I didn’t mention a single thing about the FDA. I don’t trust any of 3 letter agencies and people are foolish to do so if they have followed any sense of history throughout our nation. People need to take responsibility for themselves and let others live.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Literally know somebody that was vaccinated and died just last week due to COVID. Hope you wake up

Pretty safe to say that is part of the less than 1% statistically that are vaxxed, and get Delta or Lambda and die. Acc to several articles (CDC website) 98% or more of Covid deaths are among unvaxxed.

Why? It is so preventable. Politics? You're willing to die over silliness? It isnt FDA approved ? IT IS!

Again, Vax isnt perfect. Numbers Ive read for Delta are between 80-90% for Moderna. Pfizer may be a tad better.

Every single practitioner ive spoken with, two ER Docs, and a Surgeon, two Pharmacists, and an infectious disease Nurse state even those who've had Covid need Vaccine. Mayo Clinic, CDC, WHC, and common sense also agree.

 

[mrMet]

Pretty safe to say that is part of the less than 1% statistically that are vaxxed, and get Delta or Lambda and die. Acc to several articles (CDC website) 98% or more of Covid deaths are among unvaxxed.

Why? It is so preventable. Politics? You're willing to die over silliness? It isnt FDA approved ? IT IS!

Again, Vax isnt perfect. Numbers Ive read for Delta are between 80-90% for Moderna. Pfizer may be a tad better.

Every single practitioner ive spoken with, two ER Docs, and a Surgeon, two Pharmacists, and an infectious disease Nurse state even those who've had Covid need Vaccine. Mayo Clinic, CDC, WHC, and common sense also agree.

First, Pfizer is under 84% efficacy based on the newest data. Has waned in efficacy over time
Second, the death rate in America is .002%. Better chance to be attacked by shark or a gator and I don’t live near either.
Third, common sense should tell people to be healthy, don’t eat McDonald’s, smoke cigarettes etc. But yes let’s incentivize these unhealthy, sheep Americans with donuts beer and burgers because you need a jab!! Clown world with clown logic