Coronavirus (No politics)

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you've already told us where you work
Regulator said:
Case in point, my hospital is listed as an 86 bed facility with 9 ICU beds. Spot on for the ICU bed capacity, but we try to stay at 8 in order to have a “code bed” available in case someone crashes elsewhere in the hospital. As far as actual beds, there are maybe 65 beds and that includes mother/baby and L&D.
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and this looks pretty specific
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True story from today. 61 year old female comes in to ER, cough/congestion/chest pain/SHOB, O2 sat will drop to 86% on room air. I start an IV, draw some blood, etc.

Me: “I’m going to swab you for COVID also.”

Her: “I tested negative a week ago. Was it maybe too soon?”

Me: “Maybe too soon, maybe too late, maybe a false negative…who knows? Did you get your vaccine?”

Her: (Stares)

Me: (Stares back)

Her: “I’m a diehard Republican……and I guess I might die hard.”

Me: “You took the words out of my mouth so now I don’t have to say them.”

She tested positive.
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I haven't discredited anyone's personal experience. I've countered headlines with actual professionals and actual data published in studies and medical journals from Harvard, Stanford, Emory and others. But sure, I'm trying to discredit professionals. I've also posted the data numerous times, that in spite of cases rising, deaths are remaining low. I've posted the data from the UK who was ahead of us with the delta that showed the spike, and then the decline. This is actual data. But sure, let's believe random tik Tok videos from people crying in a camera over actual data and science.

No, I'm just tired of everyone believing propaganda that is about to lead to mandates because too many people are bowing at the feet of lord Fauci because of lies.
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The vaccination rate in the UK is higher than the US.

It's about to get really bad here with schools going back with no mask mandates. The spread will be exponentially worse than it already is. Children's hospital will get overwhelmed and children 12 and under will start dying. Those kids who pass around the virus will bring it back home to their unvaccinated parents and grandparents. Just my prediction on it.
 
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Coug said:
The vaccination rate in the UK is higher than the US.

It's about to get really bad here with schools going back with no mask mandates. The spread will be exponentially worse than it already is. Children's hospital will get overwhelmed and children 12 and under will start dying. Those kids who pass around the virus will bring it back home to their unvaccinated parents and grandparents. Just my prediction on it.
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Vaccination rate in America is over 71% who have had their first shot. That isn't even taking into account natural immunity. It is going to fall off, just like it did there. And the death rate will remain low, just like it did there. Mask mandates don't work as has been proven constantly. Children have more of a chance of dying from the seasonal flu than this virus. None of your post is true.
 
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Coug said:
The vaccination rate in the UK is higher than the US.

It's about to get really bad here with schools going back with no mask mandates. The spread will be exponentially worse than it already is. Children's hospital will get overwhelmed and children 12 and under will start dying. Those kids who pass around the virus will bring it back home to their unvaccinated parents and grandparents. Just my prediction on it.
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I agree with the latter part of that. The part about kids dying, I'll have to see to believe. As of yesterday, we've had 13 people under 21 years of age to die from covid in the entire state of TN since this began over a year and half ago. Take it up to people 30 and younger and the death total is 71. You have to get into the 60-plus population before you see anything above 1% death rate. I don't have kids and don't live with kids, so I don't have a dog in the hunt on the school masking debate. In general though, I think kids are germ factories that spread all kinds of diseases.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Vaccination rate in America is over 75% who have had their first shot. That isn't even taking into account natural immunity. It is going to fall off, just like it did there. And the death rate will remain low, just like it did there. Mask mandates don't work as has been proven constantly. Children have more of a chance of dying from the seasonal flu than this virus. None of your post is true.
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Where did you pull this data from?
 
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Coug said:
The vaccination rate in the UK is higher than the US.

It's about to get really bad here with schools going back with no mask mandates. The spread will be exponentially worse than it already is. Children's hospital will get overwhelmed and children 12 and under will start dying. Those kids who pass around the virus will bring it back home to their unvaccinated parents and grandparents. Just my prediction on it.
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There are just as many school districts going back with mask mandates and there that don't have them so we'll see. Should have some good data to compare within the next 30-60 days.
 
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hog88 said:
There are just as many school districts going back with mask mandates and there that don't have them so we'll see. Should have some good data to compare within the next 30-60 days.
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there is a mask mandate in nashville/davidson co., but we've also been having some big events here where masks are not required. kids here might be safer at school than in neighboring county but still get exposed through contact with people who attend/work some of the "super spreader" events. some of the rural areas that don't do masks may find it easier to wall themselves off from outsiders and wind up with very low infection rates. there are so many levels to this thing.
 
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hog88 said:
There are just as many school districts going back with mask mandates and there that don't have them so we'll see. Should have some good data to compare within the next 30-60 days.
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The numbers are a little worse here and just about every school system down here is going to a mask mandate. My kid's school just sent out an e-mail mandating masks for the first 2 weeks with daily re-evaluation of the protocol.
 
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CINCYVOL said:
You talking about the virus that has a 99.8% survival rate?
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First, I'd like to see a reliable source of your claim. One that shows survivability for the vaxed and unvaxed. And state by state, because quality of hospitalized care makes a difference. Finally, whether victims are original Rona or Delta infected. In short, proof you know what you're talking about.

Second, the Rona's impact goes beyond just being sick. The disease knocked large numbers of people out of the job market, but didn't put a dent in medical care costs in the USA. So victims gain the added burden of medical debt due to losing insurance. The elderly and immune system compromised, no solid data yet on infant deaths, but they're happening, so that's another burden for families. Medical acre plus funeral expenses.

Third, even vaxxed people can still get the Rona but only have common cold type symptom - BUT- can pass it on to other people who either aren't vaxed or due to age and compromised system, die from it. Finally, in this age of the idiots, we got even medical personnel who care for the sick and injured in hospitals selfishly refusing to be vaxxed, thereby putting obviously vulnerable people at risk of dying in the one place that could save their lives. This truly is the age of idiots. BUT BUT BUT, I say leave them be. Let nature weed them out in hope humanity becomes collectively smarter at some point. Herd intelligence, I suppose you could call it then. Meanwhile, GO Vols, bring it on, including the red clad lads and their dads. Bring it, I believe we're more ready than anybody, including we fans realize. Rock the Top!!!!!
 
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GAVol said:
The numbers are a little worse here and just about every school system down here is going to a mask mandate. My kid's school just sent out an e-mail mandating masks for the first 2 weeks with daily re-evaluation of the protocol.
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I was referring to the country as a whole and not just TN. So with the start of the school year around the country we should be getting some good data on the effectiveness of mask mandates.
 
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hog88 said:
I was referring to the country as a whole and not just TN. So with the start of the school year around the country we should be getting some good data on the effectiveness of mask mandates.
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I've just about thrown up my hands on the whole thing. There clearly is some benefit, but it's a little hard to explain why the highest 3 or 4 states for per capita rate of Covid infection are in the Northeast where lockdowns and masks were embraced.
 
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GAVol said:
The numbers are a little worse here and just about every school system down here is going to a mask mandate. My kid's school just sent out an e-mail mandating masks for the first 2 weeks with daily re-evaluation of the protocol.
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That sounds like the most reasonable way to approach it.

The parents that are going to school board meetings and acting a fool over the masks are so embarrassing! I really hope it isn't just Tennessee.
 
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vollygirl said:
That sounds like the most reasonable way to approach it.

The parents that are going to school board meetings and acting a fool over the masks are so embarrassing! I really hope it isn't just Tennessee.
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It's happening in VA also. And I think it's a good thing when parents voice their concerns to the school board, doesn't happen enough IMO.
 
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GAVol said:
That's 100% what it is. These school boards are caught between a rock and a hard place as far as liability and the information and messaging from the federal level has been all over the place.
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the public schools pretty much have blanket immunity. there are private contractors in a lot of the public school systems who are only covered by immunity if following CDC guidelines. my guess is that that school board that made the news (williamson) is trying to maximize the safe harbor. that county is far from a liberal bastion as you can get.
 
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From the Mayo Clinic... Again, this is remarkable. Cases have risen, deaths have remained flat, and even fallen slightly over the same time period.

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The delta variant is not as deadly. and when cases crash, deaths will also.
 
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Why do you find this data “remarkable”? I find the data to be what the medical community has been predicting. The most vulnerable were hit hard before a vaccine or any natural immunity. Since then a large percentage of the most vulnerable either died, were vaccinated, or recovered and have some level of immunity. The majority of the unvaccinated are the stronger younger healthier who thought passed on the jab because the statistics said they would likely get over it and now they are. Also, the medical community has become better at treating those with the virus.

What did you expect, the death rates to rise?
 
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walkenvol said:
Why do you find this data “remarkable”? I find the data to be what the medical community has been predicting. The most vulnerable were hit hard before a vaccine or any natural immunity. Since then a large percentage of the most vulnerable either died, were vaccinated, or recovered and have some level of immunity. The majority of the unvaccinated are the stronger younger healthier who thought passed on the jab because the statistics said they would likely get over it and now they are. Also, the medical community has become better at treating those with the virus.

What did you expect, the death rates to rise?
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You're right. No one in this thread is predicting death and destruction. Everyone's positive!
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
The delta variant is not as deadly. and when cases crash, deaths will also.
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Hope you're right, but better wait a few weeks before getting excited about death rates. Still haven't peaked as far as Delta in a lot of places (including here) and peak deaths will trail peak cases by at least a couple of weeks.
 
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