Coronavirus (No politics)

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mad4vols said:
I always thought kids didn’t need to get hospitalized for Covid?

135 children under 18 now hospitalized with COVID in Florida.

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Kids have been hospitalized and even died from Covid since the pandemic started you just don't hear much about that. Now with Delta it's going to exponentially worse.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
the 7-day average death rate is about 12% of what it was in January. but sure... this is more deadly.
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I don’t think people are as concerned about death rates right now, it’s the overload on the hospital systems that are very concerning right now. Some hospitals are stopping all elective surgeries to focus just on the Covid patients being hospitalized.
 
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mad4vols said:
I don’t think people are as concerned about death rates right now, it’s the overload on the hospital systems that are very concerning right now. Some hospitals are stopping all elective surgeries to focus just on the Covid patients being hospitalized.
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Florida Icu usage is around 87% late report I heard. It's not overloading this system even with the fear mongering
 
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Some good news:
In the past 24 hours, the US passed the highest daily rate of vaccinations since July 3.
Tennessee, Oklahoma, & Georgia seeing big increases.

Tennessee has seen a 90% increase in first shots over the past two weeks, Oklahoma, an 82% increase, and Georgia, a 66% increase.
 
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I've been wavering on getting the vaccine, but I decided that I would finally do it this morning after seeing my family doc for a routine physical.

I asked him what he thought about the vaccine, and he talked me out of getting one. Gave a list of reasons why I might want to hold off. My doctor, the other 2 doctors in the office and the rest of their staff are refusing the vaccine
 
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vols 30 said:
I've been wavering on getting the vaccine, but I decided that I would finally do it this morning after seeing my family doc for a routine physical.

I asked him what he thought about the vaccine, and he talked me out of getting one. Gave a list of reasons why I might want to hold off. My doctor, the other 2 doctors in the office and the rest of their staff are refusing the vaccine
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So you had made up your mind to get it and your physician talked you out of it? What was his/her reasons for not receiving it?
 
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vols 30 said:
I've been wavering on getting the vaccine, but I decided that I would finally do it this morning after seeing my family doc for a routine physical.

I asked him what he thought about the vaccine, and he talked me out of getting one. Gave a list of reasons why I might want to hold off. My doctor, the other 2 doctors in the office and the rest of their staff are refusing the vaccine
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That's interesting. What was their reasoning?
 
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jp1 said:
So you had made up your mind to get it and your physician talked you out of it? What was his/her reasons for not receiving it?
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His main reason was the speed to get the Vaccine out. He said he wouldn't be surprised to see vaccinated people with serious side effects a few years from now.

He said something about no true test for the delta variant compared to standard corona. I probably didn't hear correctly when he was speaking then
 
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volfanhill said:
Statistics showing more young people hospitalised with Covid are not what they seem
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I, for one, am stunned.

"So in terms of actual numbers, young people are currently being admitted to hospital at about the same level – or lower – than during the winter high point."

"There are now 5,896 people in hospital with the virus – just 15 per cent of the 39,254 at the peak of the January wave."

"However, it is unlikely that they are all seriously ill. The latest figures from the Intensive Care National Audit Officers show that fewer than 1,000 people are in intensive care with Covid, and there are good data from the Covid Clinical Information Network showing that patients in this wave are needing less time in hospital.

In the January peak, fewer than half of patients had been discharged after 10 days. Now, 50 per cent of patients have been sent home by day four, with only one in five still needing hospital care by day 10.

This can also be seen in the death figures. Nate Silver, the eminent US statistician, estimates that Britain's case fatality rate is now around 0.2 to 0.3 per cent, compared to two per cent during the alpha or Kent variant wave."

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it is worth bearing in mind that the chance of young people being admitted to hospital after catching Covid is very small. Data from PHE show that, for the under-50s, just 0.7 per cent of infections will result in an overnight hospital stay.

In contrast, for the over 50s it is 2.9 per cent"


But, but, but, the variant! Stop believing the panic and the fear. It's all lies. Thanks to vaccine and immunity, as the article I posted above from Stanford earlier notes, covid has been defeated. Cases may rise, but hospitalizations and deaths do not. In fact, the data even shows that with this so called variant, that while cases may rise, they crash just as fast.

But sure, vaccine passports, mandatory vaccines, masks, and lockdowns! It's not about health and safety folks
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Most of the unvaccinated people are either waiting for full fda approval or they’ll never get it.
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Yep. My wife is a nurse, she knows first hand the type of overstating of hospital numbers and things like that. the hospital that she works at stated that they had around 20 patients with covid in the hospital. That's true. But only 2 of them were there for covid. That's a big difference, isn't it?

But, they're talking about making vaccines mandatory, and if they do, my wife will be quitting. She worked in one of the busiest cities in the country during covid last year, they have begged her to take more hours, given her raises and promotions, but now she's probably going to quit over their mandate, if they pass it. We'll see if they pass it though.
 
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vols 30 said:
His main reason was the speed to get the Vaccine out. He said he wouldn't be surprised to see vaccinated people with serious side effects a few years from now.

He said something about no true test for the delta variant compared to standard corona. I probably didn't hear correctly when he was speaking then
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That's mine and my wife's concern. My parents have the vaccine, my grandparents have the vaccine. But I have yet to see the reason for young, healthy people to get it. Especially since my wife and I both have already had it and we have the antibodies.

We're trusting in the immunity God gave us until more is known about these vaccines. I don't know why that's so hard for people to accept. I don't have a problem with anyone getting the vaccine, I have a problem with people trying to force us to get it.
 
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vols 30 said:
His main reason was the speed to get the Vaccine out. He said he wouldn't be surprised to see vaccinated people with serious side effects a few years from now.

He said something about no true test for the delta variant compared to standard corona. I probably didn't hear correctly when he was speaking then
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I’ve said it somewhere on here before, but this argument logically doesn’t make much sense considering the same exact things can be said about COVID itself.

We don’t know the long-term effects of Covid 2-3 years out either, however everything we know about COVID vs. the vaccine suggests there’s significantly more long-term risk from COVID.
 
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ndubvols said:
I’ve said it somewhere on here before, but this argument logically doesn’t make much sense considering the same exact things can be said about COVID itself.

We don’t know the long-term effects of Covid 2-3 years out either, however everything we know about COVID vs. the vaccine suggests there’s significantly more long-term risk from COVID.
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So, we are screwed either way 😄
 
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