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Is it safe to come out? Has the outbreak of religiosity run its course?
 
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#1GatorHater said:
I can respect and appreciate your approach.
Every lustful thought we have is a sin
That power T, an idol and a sin. We are all living in constant sin! It's amazing that God loves us so much to have given the only Son as a sacrifice, to have manifested in flesh and suffered so that we may end up in the full presence of God.

Also, God does not make mistakes. How do we know what the lesson we should be learning from this new societal issue should be? Should it be to say that they are mentally ill and are going to burn in Hell? Did God make them mentally ill? Were they born with this "mental illness" like I was born with several diseases?
I ways come back to love and acceptance, turning the other cheek, and reaching out a helping hand. If they want to ask me about my beliefs, I will definitely share them without condemning their own
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We are called to love. We are not called to accept sin. God hates sin, therefore I hate sin. God loves the sinner, therefore I try to love the sinner. Two very different things. It is required that we meet people where they are and that includes in a state of sin. However, we should encourage them to put aside their sin and seek redemption, just as I would hope others would do for me if they witnessed me in open sin. You are not arguing your point very well.

Like our pastor said this last weekend. Jesus is THE way, THE truth, and THE life. He is not A way, A truth, and A life. All are welcome to follow Him but He is the way to the Father.
 
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Glitch said:
We are called to love. We are not called to accept sin. God hates sin, therefore I hate sin. God loves the sinner, therefore I try to love the sinner. Two very different things. It is required that we meet people where they are and that includes in a state of sin. However, we should encourage them to put aside their sin and seek redemption, just as I would hope others would do for me if they witnessed me in open sin. You are not arguing your point very well.

Like our pastor said this last weekend. Jesus is THE way, THE truth, and THE life. He is not A way, A truth, and A life. All are welcome to follow Him but He is the way to the Father.
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I'm not arguing a point. I'm sharing my opinion. I'm not holding it as fact. I'm not dug in to the point where I would judge someone else.

I just think that you don't actually pull every sinner aside and inform them of their sin and offer to love them.
Do you do that to people who worship other religions? Pull them aside and tell them they are living in sin and to find Jesus and change their lives? Not being facetious.
 
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Glitch said:
We are called to love. We are not called to accept sin. God hates sin, therefore I hate sin. God loves the sinner, therefore I try to love the sinner. Two very different things. It is required that we meet people where they are and that includes in a state of sin. However, we should encourage them to put aside their sin and seek redemption, just as I would hope others would do for me if they witnessed me in open sin. You are not arguing your point very well.

Like our pastor said this last weekend. Jesus is THE way, THE truth, and THE life. He is not A way, A truth, and A life. All are welcome to follow Him but He is the way to the Father.
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The interesting thing about religion is they all claim to be "the way".
 
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Weezer said:
The interesting thing about religion is they all claim to be "the way".
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This is true. I have no problem with anyone believing what they want. I do take issue with people who think that they can possibly comprehend God and his magnificence.
 
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bignewt said:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
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Exactly. To keep the government out of church. But was founded with Judeo Christian beliefs. Some were Diests others Christian but they did believe in a creator.
 
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#1GatorHater said:
You can bring your religion wherever you want. The government needs to be devoid of religious underpinnings when they make decisions that impact millions of non-Christian citizens. There is probably just as much disagreement within the Christian about the teachings as there is outside of it about religion in general.
You shouldn't make laws based upon your religious preferences. The government should not legislate morality. Especially with the low moral capacity and corruption of politics at all levels regardless of religious affiliation.
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No morality laws. Got it. So I can now kill you and no laws should be in place for murder. It’s a moral question on if it’s wrong. Don’t judge me. It’s not wrong in my book to kill you. Glad you are ok with that. What I posted makes as much sense as your drivel. Pure stupidity
 
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JacketVol said:
Exactly. To keep the government out of church. But was founded with Judeo Christian beliefs. Some were Diests others Christian but they did believe in a creator.
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Exactly. The separation response always cracks me up. it eliminates the context of why they inserted it. The Church of England was basically one and the same as government since ministers had to pledge their support to the King of England. They never wanted to go through that again.
 
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#1GatorHater said:
I'm not arguing a point. I'm sharing my opinion. I'm not holding it as fact. I'm not dug in to the point where I would judge someone else.

I just think that you don't actually pull every sinner aside and inform them of their sin and offer to love them.
Do you do that to people who worship other religions? Pull them aside and tell them they are living in sin and to find Jesus and change their lives? Not being facetious.
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I don't pull every sinner aside to tell them about the gospel. For me, that requires some sort of relationship so that the other person has an understanding of who I am as a person. It is also less about telling people they are living in sin and more about talking to them and just telling them about my personal experiences with sin and how I continue to struggle bur find strength in Jesus.
 
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JacketVol said:
No morality laws. Got it. So I can now kill you and no laws should be in place for murder. It’s a moral question on if it’s wrong. Don’t judge me. It’s not wrong in my book to kill you. Glad you are ok with that. What I posted makes as much sense as your drivel. Pure stupidity
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Laws against murder are not about morality or religion. They're about infringing upon the rights of others, such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You are not allowed to infringe upon the rights of others.
 
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Vols4us said:
Exactly. The separation response always cracks me up. it eliminates the context of why they inserted it. The Church of England was basically one and the same as government since ministers had to pledge their support to the King of England. They never wanted to go through that again.
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Not just that, but there were several different sects of Christianity in early America that all had different ideas on how to govern. The whole reason they came to the "New World" was so they could practice their particular form of Christianity.
 
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Vols4us said:
Exactly. The separation response always cracks me up. it eliminates the context of why they inserted it. The Church of England was basically one and the same as government since ministers had to pledge their support to the King of England. They never wanted to go through that again.
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Things like facts don't fit the narrative and so they are discarded in favor of a modern "interpretation" of the founders' intent.

2A is a good example. People say that the 2A was never meant for things like AR-15's or high capacity magazines. The founders intentionally left the 2A vague because it is meant to allow the citizens to have the means to defend themselves against an oppressive government. The government has automatic weapons, artillery, tanks, airplanes, etc. Yet, opponents of the 2A say it was only meant for hunting or some such. They really just want to take all our guns so that we can't defend ourselves against an increasingly tyrannical government.
 
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Weezer said:
Not just that, but there were several different sects of Christianity in early America that all had different ideas on how to govern. The whole reason they came to the "New World" was so they could practice their particular form of Christianity.
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That is also generally how they gathered and each colony was more or less governed by the particular ideology that the people believed in for their religious beliefs.
 
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JacketVol said:
Exactly. To keep the government out of church. But was founded with Judeo Christian beliefs. Some were Diests others Christian but they did believe in a creator.
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I fail to see your point. In fact I find it even more impactful that early American Christians wanted to maintain religious freedoms and the way to insure that was to keep the church out of government. Now that didn't stop mobs from killing Mormons but still...
 
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#1GatorHater said:
Pretty clear. But that's just me reading. Obviously, it is up for interpretation like everything else. Maybe some of these clairvoyant prophets in here that are 100% sure of God's will and whatnot have it all figured out.
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If you claim to be a Christian and are not seeking God’s will for your life, you’re no Christian at all. Our purpose, ultimately, is to bring Him glory through service by pointing others to Him. God places people and obstacles before us for His glory, not ours. It is up to us to discern what to do with them. This discernment is learned through prayer and bathing in the Word. The logical gaps in the last several pages are only separated by 12 inches: the distance from the head to the heart.

Paul states that we should take every thought captive. Why? Because we are inherently sinful and undeserving of God’s mercy, for our heart is easily deceived by our eyes. If you learn nothing else, let it be this: Scripture interprets Scripture. In other words, if you impart your ambitions (eisegesis) instead of allowing the Bible to speak as written (exegesis), you’re, at that point, serving yourself above the Lord.

Man has twisted Scripture to fit an agenda since the beginning of time. Even Satan knows Scripture, and he tried to errantly tempt Jesus by misquoting the Word He authored. Speaking truth to power in a loving manner is as Bible-rich as it gets. Did Jesus lie to the attendants of the Sermon on the Mount? No, He detailed many sins that we all struggle with and laid barren the perfect picture of what Christian discipleship looks like.

If the truth was never spoken, hell would be a lot more crowded. Don’t misinterpret a servant heart for judgmental tendencies.
 
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JacketVol said:
No morality laws. Got it. So I can now kill you and no laws should be in place for murder. It’s a moral question on if it’s wrong. Don’t judge me. It’s not wrong in my book to kill you. Glad you are ok with that. What I posted makes as much sense as your drivel. Pure stupidity
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Personal attacks? Got it tough guy.
 
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