President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

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volfanhill said:
Maybe you can post some more articles you didn't read or post more Biden lies as deemed so by the lefts favorite fact checkers. At this point take the L.
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Waiting for that list. Looks like there are folks who quibble at the edges. Don't see any--let alone 120--saying feds shouldn't do squat.
 
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evillawyer said:
Waiting for that list. Looks like there are folks who quibble at the edges. Don't see any--let alone 120--saying feds shouldn't do squat.
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we went from "Take it up with the economists who have nearly universally backed Biden's economic recovery plan."

to well find me a list of at least 120 economists who think the Federal government shouldn't do any stimulus of any kind.

Wow.
 
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evillawyer said:
Waiting for that list. Looks like there are folks who quibble at the edges. Don't see any--let alone 120--saying feds shouldn't do squat.
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I see over 20,000 who didn't sign off on it. So there is that. You have been absolutely embarrassed. Also please quote where I said zero stimulus. That's your take on me. Go find it. It will be a better use of your time then posting articles you don't read.
 
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evillawyer said:
Give me the list of at least 120 economists who have come out and said the feds should not do any economic stimulus right now. I'll wait
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Can we count all who identify as economist? There appear to be a ton of those on this site, on both sides of this debate.
 
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This is all part of a master plan to discredit EL and undermine her awesome credibility. It’s code named “Jusy Keep Her Talking” 😂
 
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volfanhill said:
I see over 20,000 who didn't sign off on it. So there is that. You have been absolutely embarrassed. Also please quote where I said zero stimulus. That's your take on me. Go find it. It will be a better use of your time then posting articles you don't read.
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Take away:

Biden's recovery plan calls for massive government spending to create growth and get us out of the recession. A few economists have quibbled over the right amount. Can't find any who say nothing should be done by the feds.

Getting back to where we started (can government spending lead to economic growth), seems pretty clear that a broad swath of economists think it can.

Win for EL.
 
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evillawyer said:
Take away:

Biden's recovery plan calls for massive government spending to create growth and get us out of the recession. A few economists have quibbled over the right amount. Can't find any who say nothing should be done by the feds.

Getting back to where we started (can government spending lead to economic growth), seems pretty clear that a broad swath of economists think it can.

Win for EL.
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Every POTUS plan for decades called for massive government spending. What rock do you live under?
 
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evillawyer said:
Take away:

Biden's recovery plan calls for massive government spending to create growth and get us out of the recession. A few economists have quibbled over the right amount. Can't find any who say nothing should be done by the feds.

Getting back to where we started (can government spending lead to economic growth), seems pretty clear that a broad swath of economists think it can.

Win for EL.
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The only thing you won is further verification that you don't read articles you post.
 
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evillawyer said:
A dollar injected into the economy is a dollar injected into the economy. Doesn't matter if that dollar is coming from government spending financed by debt or consumer spending financed by tax cuts. Fact is, a sh*t ton of money is being spent. That leads to economic growth, whether you like it or not. Her conclusion that Biden has nothing to do with the economic boom is laughable.
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That’s not even remotely true and doesn’t show an even elementary level of basic understanding of economics. Your dollar “theory” that is not her conclusion
 
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evillawyer said:
Take away:

Biden's recovery plan calls for massive government spending to create growth and get us out of the recession. A few economists have quibbled over the right amount. Can't find any who say nothing should be done by the feds.

Getting back to where we started (can government spending lead to economic growth), seems pretty clear that a broad swath of economists think it can.

Win for EL.
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1) we were already out of the short recession.

2) more than a few (including the former top economic advisor under Obama/Biden) felt it (the first phase) was about double too much (not a quibble).

3) you have to move from fully supported Biden's plan to Fed's should do something to move your false statement to one that's partially true.

4) by arguing Biden's plan is driving economic growth you inadvertently credit Trump's stimulus for driving the bulk of economic growth.

Odd what you consider a win. At this point you barely qualify for the participation trophy.
 
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evillawyer said:
Take away:

Biden's recovery plan calls for massive government spending to create growth and get us out of the recession. A few economists have quibbled over the right amount. Can't find any who say nothing should be done by the feds.

Getting back to where we started (can government spending lead to economic growth), seems pretty clear that a broad swath of economists think it can.

Win for EL.
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Let me break this down in it’s simplest terms for you and other politicians: governments arbitrarily print money because it is not backed by an equivalent amount of gold or silver, which is what “stimulus” and “bond purchases” are in their basic forms. Therefore, governments print money because they can. When you have more of something at little to no cost, low interest rates, it lessens its value. The monetary supply has been “inflated”. You would do yourself a tremendous amount of good by understanding where and when this happened throughout history at a tremendous cost; Bolivia in the 1980’s, Germany in the 1920’s. Those two relatively recent scenarios created hyperinflation very quickly and destroyed both economies by arbitrarily printing money to pay off debts and “stimulate” the economy.
 
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My own overall sense of things is that:

1) Biden at times seems pretty physically weak and infirm. At other times in pretty good shape considering.

2) He makes a lot of misstatements, but he has always had a bit of a stutter/disjointed style. So far as POTUS none have really bothered me that much.

3) Notwithstanding questions about his stamina and overall health, it is clear that he has surrounded himself with people that know how government works, get things done with minimal goofery, and aren't there to just provoke and antagonize, to disrupt for the sake of disrupting.

4) Harris is smart but has so far had trouble establishing her own, steady, identity. I suppose that is a problem a lot of VPs have. How to be relevant without appearing to overshadow the boss.

Doubt he runs again. Harris will be heir apparent but I am not remotely sold on her yet. Dumbest thing the GOP could do is nominate Trump to run against her. You have plenty of better alternatives.
 
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