Eisenhower

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OrangeEmpire said:
People will really jump on me for this but is has to be FDR.

For all the craziness he brought he did keep the country together by inspiring hope.
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I bet Chesty Puller would disagree with you. FDR was a very good commander in chief, but his economic policies damn near destroyed the country.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
Harry Truman was the last great Democrat.

Harry Truman had morals, backbone, and integrity. Something sadly lacking in todays political world.
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I agree, although I would have liked to have seen the results after eight years of JFK. Well, actually we know one of his promises came to fruition when Neil Armstrong stepped out onto the Moon.

Morals, backbone and integrity are characteristics our president needs to have, but not just those themselves make a good president. They must be joined by intelligence, patience and understanding as well. I think GWB has morals, backbone and integrity. Enough said, but many people said they voted for GWB for that alone. Conversely, Bill Clinton was short on the morals and integrity but had the intelligence, patience and understanding needed to be an effective president
 
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FenianVol said:
Oh yeah Zeke, by the way I meant to say, when you went into your "Im a proud republican and Im gonna bully you by threatening to shoot you speill" blah blah blah. That as a Southern man you cant shoot for sh*t because if southern men could shoot then the south would have won the war, slavery would still be around and marrying your sister would be law.

See what they should have done was, get the union boys to wear antlers and white tails then y'all would have won the war, no wait you still would have found a way to b@lls it up!
Never mind anyway, so back to generalizing the world into one simple pliable turd which is ironic cos thats what you seem to be!

Anyway god bless and I hope the brain doesnt dry up too soon!

OOh sick burn
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That is the worst post I have ever read on this website.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
Harry Truman was the last great Democrat.

Harry Truman had morals, backbone, and integrity. Something sadly lacking in todays political world.
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:lolabove:

Truman was awful!

The only good thing he ever did was make the battleship Missouri his personal yacht.
 
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MG1968 said:
I bet Chesty Puller would disagree with you. FDR was a very good commander in chief, but his economic policies damn near destroyed the country.
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Note why I said craziness, but considering every thing that was going on and the morale of the country FDR kept it together.
 
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hohenfelsvol said:
Reagan was not viewed as a head case in Europe. He made Russia nervous and thus parts of Europe by not taking any crap. Thus the wall fell. I was in Germany when that transpired. So, I know the German (European) perspective. And listening to your way way left banter, you are European but are way off on this one.

So, name the last great democratic president.
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I'd be surprised if this guy was alive when the wall came down.
 
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FenianVol said:
The last great republican president?? A strong practical leader and got stuff done unlike the parade of clowns since then.

Reagan was alright, but the world was nervous about him and Gorby and the nuke button at the time!

Any reasonable political junkies in here who aren't sheep or children that think Ike was one of the best?
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So whats it like being Russias biatch??

Russian gas disruption spreads across Europe - Yahoo! News

Freezing your butt off yet?
 
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#33
The best thing that could happen to the the Republican Party is to continue to vote the remaining incumbents in Congress out. They voted to support the Iraq War and they voted to regulate the Banking industry and we will be paying for that war and those decisions for generations.

People think they are best serving the Republican party by defending them, but the best thing they can do is vote them out of office.
 
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#34
#34
oklavol said:
The best thing that could happen to the the Republican Party is to continue to vote the remaining incumbents in Congress out. They voted to support the Iraq War and Bush's economic policies and they were a failure.

People think they are best serving the Republican party by defending them, but the best thing they can do is vote them out of office.
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what were bush's failed economic policies? please explain. i don't think you can.

the republican that were voted out were no different than lib dems. republicans need to go back to being conservatives and stop being democrats.

please don't ban me for asking you this question.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
:lolabove:

Truman was awful!

The only good thing he ever did was make the battleship Missouri his personal yacht.
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Truman made one of the most difficult decisions any POTUS has ever faced. Invade Japan at the cost of up to a million allied lives, or use a nuclear weapon. He clearly made the right decision.

He didn't use the Missouri as his personal yacht. He merely caught a ride on it. This was more to protect the POTUS than anything. There was no jet travel then. Roosevelt caught a few rides on battleships during his day too. It was the safest means of international transport in that turbulent era.

BTW, you might want to study that trip Truman took on the Missouri. He didn't seclude himself in the finest cabin available. He spent most of his time below deck. Playing poker with the sailors and GIs aboard ship.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
Truman made one of the most difficult decisions any POTUS has ever faced. Invade Japan at the cost of up to a million allied lives, or use a nuclear weapon. He clearly made the right decision.

He didn't use the Missouri as his personal yacht. He merely caught a ride on it. This was more to protect the POTUS than anything. There was no jet travel then. Roosevelt caught a few rides on battleships during his day too. It was the safest means of international transport in that turbulent era.

BTW, you might want to study that trip Truman took on the Missouri. He didn't seclude himself in the finest cabin available. He spent most of his time below deck. Playing poker with the sailors and GIs aboard ship.
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1.) The decision was made before Truman was on board.

2.) It was his yacht and he was quite proud of it.

3.) I am surprised you didn't mention the Truman line in the mess hall.

Truman = Awful, easily in the bottom 10.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
1.) The decision was made before Truman was on board.

2.) It was his yacht and he was quite proud of it.

3.) I am surprised you didn't mention the Truman line in the mess hall.

Truman = Awful, easily in the bottom 10.
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FACT: Truman made the final decision.

FACT: Truman never used the Missouri as his personal yacht.

FACT: Truman in the bottom 10 is your personal opinion.
 
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#38
joevol320 said:
what were bush's failed economic policies? please explain. i don't think you can.
the republican that were voted out were no different than lib dems. republicans need to go back to being conservatives and stop being democrats.

please don't ban me for asking you this question.
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Well, for one, the rebate checks he had mailed out in the summer of 2001 accomplished exactly the opposite of the intention. People were supposed to spend the money thus stimulating the economy; however, people used the money to pay down debt and some just stuck it in the bank.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
FACT: Truman made the final decision.

FACT: Truman never used the Missouri as his personal yacht.

FACT: Truman in the bottom 10 is your personal opinion.
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Fact: Truman agreed with the decision that was already made.

Fact: He used the Missouri as his personal yacht.

Fact: Check the historians, the majority agree with me.

:eek:k:
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Fact: Truman agreed with the decision that was already made.

Fact: He used the Missouri as his personal yacht.

Fact: Check the historians, the majority agree with me.

:eek:k:
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The decision to use the atomic bomb was made by President Truman. There was never any doubt of that and despite the rising tide of criticism Mr. Truman took full responsibility for his action. Only recently succeeded to the Presidency after the death of Roosevelt and beset by a multitude of problems of enormous significance for the postwar world, Mr. Truman leaned heavily on the advice of his senior and most trusted advisers on the question of the bomb. But the final decision was his and his alone. [1]
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[1] The study that follows was published in substantially its present
form in Foreign Affairs, Vol. XXV, No. 2 (January, 1957). It is
reprinted by special permission from Foreign Affairs; copyright by
Council on Foreign Relations, New York.

Here, let me Google more for you.

CLICK HERE FOR PROOF YOU ARE WRONG!

The personal yacht statement is too ludious to bother debating.

Link your sources about Truman being in the bottom 10.

Here, take a look. Truman, and another POTUS you rail against, Woodrow Wilson, are CONSISTENTLY ranked in the top 10 by those knowledgeable about such much matters.

See the chart at the bottom of the page.

Historical rankings of United States Presidents

Fact: You are wrong.
 
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I have said it before. Obama is somebody's puppet. He got where he is because of a particular person or small group. He will say and do what they tell him. I would be thrilled to have to eat my words when he leaves office. But Obama will do more long term harm to this country than any president in history. Possibly even any in the future.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
[1] The study that follows was published in substantially its present
form in Foreign Affairs, Vol. XXV, No. 2 (January, 1957). It is
reprinted by special permission from Foreign Affairs; copyright by
Council on Foreign Relations, New York.

Here, let me Google more for you.

CLICK HERE FOR PROOF YOU ARE WRONG!

The personal yacht statement is too ludious to bother debating.

Link your sources about Truman being in the bottom 10.

Here, take a look. Truman, and another POTUS you rail against, Woodrow Wilson, are CONSISTENTLY ranked in the top 10 by those knowledgeable about such much matters.

See the chart at the bottom of the page.

Historical rankings of United States Presidents

Fact: You are wrong.
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No one will ever be worse than Woodrow.

He was a bigot, a grand wizard, actually the list goes on and on.

Nice to know who you look up too!

Do you ever read any thing that is not on google or yahoo, it would help out a lot!

:hi:
 
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#43
OrangeEmpire said:
No one will ever be worse than Woodrow.

He was a bigot, a grand wizard, actually the list goes on and on.

Nice to know who you look up too!

Do you ever read any thing that is not on google or yahoo, it would help out a lot!

:hi:
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There is not one shred of credible evidence that Wilson was a Grand Wizard.

Do you ever read anything other than cockeyed conspiracy theories?

My mistake for using the Internet as a reference vault. We all know that anything written in a book, or printed on paper for that matter, is gospel fact.
 
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#44
SavageOrangeJug said:
There is not one shred of credible evidence that Wilson was a Grand Wizard.

Do you ever read anything other than cockeyed conspiracy theories?

My mistake for using the Internet as a reference vault. We all know that anything written in a book, or printed on paper for that matter, is gospel fact.
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:lolabove:

Nice one!
 
#45
#45
superdave1984 said:
I have said it before. Obama is somebody's puppet. He got where he is because of a particular person or small group. He will say and do what they tell him. I would be thrilled to have to eat my words when he leaves office. But Obama will do more long term harm to this country than any president in history. Possibly even any in the future.
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he's going to be pelosi and reid's puppet. they'll have a rubberstamp approval on any bill they send him. they're going to change this country to europe within 2-4 years. we're already getting there from an economic standpoint thanks to horrid buyout plan.
 
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Any man who wants to be president is either an egomaniac or crazy.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

We are tired of aristocratic explanations in Harvard words.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil and you're a thousand miles from the corn field.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

I have one yardstick by which I test every major problem - and that yardstick is: Is it good for America?
Dwight D. Eisenhower

In the final choice a soldier's pack is not so heavy as a prisoner's chains.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Our forces saved the remnants of the Jewish people of Europe for a new life and a new hope in the reborn land of Israel. Along with all men of good will, I salute the young state and wish it well.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Politics ought to be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Some people wanted champagne and caviar when they should have had beer and hot dogs.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

The spirit of man is more important than mere physical strength, and the spiritual fiber of a nation than its wealth.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

The supreme quality for leadership is unquestionably integrity. Without it, no real success is possible, no matter whether it is on a section gang, a football field, in an army, or in an office.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

One thing that has been lost in partisan political debate is that Eisenhower did more for equal rights for African Americans than probably any other president of the twentieth century, although he didn't try to make a big deal out of it the way certain Democrats have.

Bob Parks, Black and Right.

The real history of equal rights and the role played by the democrat and republican parties, actions don't match the rhetoric, to say the least.

SavageOrangeJug said:
Harry Truman was the last great Democrat.

Harry Truman had morals, backbone, and integrity. Something sadly lacking in todays political world.
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I do not believe there is a problem in this country or the world today which could not be settled if approached through the teaching of the Sermon on the Mount.
Harry S. Truman


I had faith in Israel before it was established, I have in it now. I believe it has a glorious future before it - not just another sovereign nation, but as an embodiment of the great ideals of our civilization.
Harry S. Truman


I remember when I first came to Washington. For the first six months you wonder how the hell you ever got here. For the next six months you wonder how the hell the rest of them ever got here.
Harry S. Truman

My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference.
Harry S. Truman

There is nothing new in the world except the history you do not know.
Harry S. Truman




superdave1984 said:
I have said it before. Obama is somebody's puppet. He got where he is because of a particular person or small group. He will say and do what they tell him. I would be thrilled to have to eat my words when he leaves office. But Obama will do more long term harm to this country than any president in history. Possibly even any in the future.
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"I can't go to my own barbershop now. I've got to have my barber come to some undisclosed location to cut my hair." --Barack Obama

:cray:
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
There is not one shred of credible evidence that Wilson was a Grand Wizard.

Do you ever read anything other than cockeyed conspiracy theories?

My mistake for using the Internet as a reference vault. We all know that anything written in a book, or printed on paper for that matter, is gospel fact.
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You bet... any way that I can help someone out, I am there for you.

:hi:
 
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