Has paying players legally changed your

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knoxvol16 said:
They've just turned college sports into a professional league. As others have stated above, this is about to get really messy. And, as others have already stated, while the whole of college sports tries to clean up the mess, the rich will get richer, etc.

UT Football has already been in a similar situation for nearly 20 years. Before CPF was fired, the landscape was changing. So, while UT was trying to find their way out of a darkness that they created for themselves, the other powerhouses were building, which left UT to fall further and further behind the pack.

Paying players is about to add yet another wrinkle to the landscape that UT sports isn't ready to handle. This will not go well for UT. Therefore, no, I'm not excited.
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Its gonna be the Wild Wild West !
 
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golfballs said:
Im sure they’re trying to figure out what will pass legal muster now that the Supreme Court has shown where they stand on this.
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Yeah, that is the problem... the USSC threw (more or less) them out of the house on compensation restriction/regulating. Although the case was about "educational benefits", the same thing would more or less apply even more so to raw compensation. Kav is basically saying to sue the **** out of them. Even a rule saying the conferences can regulate it (according to State law) could still be an anti-trust violation, they simply need to get out of the way.

The only NCAA rule on restrictions on compensation/benefits should be there is no NCAA rule. They should just informally tell everyone they are out of that business, and when they go to vote on rules, strike (remove) any existing rules that deals on those subjects. They should continue to work with DOJ/players/schools as to transfer issues, this is something that DOJ has already warned them about which they started to ease up on.
 
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Weird how the only people in the process to not get paid previously now getting a few dollars is going to "ruin" college sports, whatever this means. People resist change too much sometimes. It'll be alright.
 
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golfballs said:
Im sure they’re trying to figure out what will pass legal muster now that the Supreme Court has shown where they stand on this. Will probably be the subject of litigation to come so will be a while before we get a better idea of what it means long term
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Some articles have mentioned congress will continue working with the NCAA to still ensure they can keep a reasonable amount of rulemaking ability over the matter.
 
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Unimane said:
Weird how the only people in the process to not get paid previously now getting a few dollars is going to "ruin" college sports, whatever this means. People resist change too much sometimes. It'll be alright.
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Well, ya know, the main thing that makes the sport what it is, is in knowing the players are being severely undercompensated. That apparently makes a lot of people very happy.

Honestly, I just get the vibe of jealousy. As in...how dare these kids make much more than me! I won't support them now! Weird vibes all the way around tbh.
 
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sjt18 said:
Paying college athletes will ruin all collegiate sports. The rich.... will get very, very rich. No one else need bother.
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You gotta be in it to win it. Instead of the loser's limp scarcity mentality, reframe it as a question like,
How will I best position myself during this time to prosper from the change?
Then just answer the question and do it. There's your winning game plan to transform chicken little into king midas
from a simple paradigm and mindset shift.
Instead of allowing your thoughts to limit your belief of what's possible, you change it into a productive question
that makes it possible for you to succeed without allowing failure as an option.
If you think you can or if you think you can't, you're probably right. That may be too deep for this discussion,
but you have shown intelligence here through the years so I figured you could appreciate the "coaching" designed
for course correction. Tough love. Just win baby. Go Vols!
 
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YES! 100% Just another sport now. No loyalty. No amateurism. Just go with who pays the most. Come to think of it... maybe its not all that different than the present form. Hmmmm. Might have to rethink.
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
This def opens up Pandora’s box as to what college football will look like in 5 years it’s going to get real slimy and sleazy no doubt and anything goes. I expect the rich to get richer such as Bama, Ohio St, Clemson and the Georgia’s of the world.
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Yep and we thought AAU basketball was bad...
GBO!!
 
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It has turned me to watching Tennessee on TV. University has turned into a rich fans only approach. Not to mention the fact that officials in all sports, now determine outcomes of games.
 
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Devo182 said:
Some articles have mentioned congress will continue working with the NCAA to still ensure they can keep a reasonable amount of rulemaking ability over the matter.
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Seems like it would take Congress passing legislation to give them anti-trust immunity
 
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Slowly college athletics will just become professional sports leagues. If there aren’t regulations put in place it will just be the Wild West. It kind of takes away from the spirit of the game a little bit for me. I’m all for people making as much money as they can, I just don’t want it to be their primary goal. Getting an education and performing to the best of their abilities should be top priority, with money coming after. I will always root for Tennessee but I fear it won’t be the same as time goes on with this.
 
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golfballs said:
Seems like it would take Congress passing legislation to give them anti-trust immunity
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I think its a huge problem, the players will than demand that be determined to be "employees" of the school i.e. min. wage at the lowest, employee benefit, and the right to collective bargaining. What next, the colleges trade players?

Also, I've said from the beginning that these State NIL Laws are most likely bad law, to me they might be constitutional "taking". However, I am not as familiar with "regulatory taking" like this, to be honest, I have never really seen anything like these NIL Laws before. I'm not sure how the State or what the purpose of the State is involving itself with a student and placing requirements or restrictions? Is being an athlete a regulated activity of the State?

All of this is going to get very strange in the years ahead.
 
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99gator said:
I don’t think it will change as much as people think.

It’s like finding out a celebrity had an extramarital affair. It’s been going forever it just wasn’t out in the public
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Teams will agree to a salary cap eventually and the power 5 will dominate as usual.

It will become very NFL like but with lower wages
 
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Voltopia said:
It's not about them getting paid. It's about the continual decline of college football into becoming just another professional sports league dominated by money and greed and television - which was certainly already true, but this is just the acceleration into the trash heap. I can cheer for kids who identify with the state of Tennessee, who choose to live in Knoxville, who come to Rocky Top, who are going to college, and who dig the Vols. That's something I have a connection to. I won't be able to relate or root for a kid who makes 250k a year and is worried more about his brand and his social media numbers than playing football. Or a kid who could give a crap if Tennessee loses so long as he gets paid -- and can transfer out in a heartbeat if they don't think they're making enough. But that's where this is all going. Transfers, payments, it's just going to be the NFL with younger players, and I already don't care about the NFL So why would I care more about those others? It's not hate. I don't care that they're wanting to get paid. I'm just not going to feel all that much about 'em.
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I could not agree more! Pride for program, loyalty to teammates/university and playing for the love of the game is gone! Another part of Americana destroyed "for the love of money". Yes I also agree paying coaches ridiculous amounts of money accelerated this.
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
This def opens up Pandora’s box as to what college football will look like in 5 years it’s going to get real slimy and sleazy no doubt and anything goes. I expect the rich to get richer such as Bama, Ohio St, Clemson and the Georgia’s of the world.
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Soooo pretty much like it has been for the past 10-15 years.
 
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I think players should get to make money from their likeness and hard work. BUT idk how you avoid creating power vacuums. I mean it’s already that way with the top 10 recruiting ranks always looking the same. But if you’re a Bama player you will have so many more opportunities because of exposure than other schools, that it will only make recruiting even more corrupt.
 
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Also, do you think they will have to start some kind of draft system? There is no way you can ensure that the Kroger folks aren’t giving 100,000 dollar contracts to KY players in the future to recruit them. Idk enough about the limits of this though.
 
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Probably been posted. Pay the same across the board for all scholarships. It’s all about the likeness. Let the booster step up and carry the load. There are millionaires that might be willing to over pay so a certain athlete goes to UT. I expect that to happen. I would be willing to pay HB $100 for a selfie and then use that selfie to advertise my invention.
 
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Milehigh_Vol said:
Dump truck money for the Manning boy
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My gut feeling is that the Manning boy, IF he goes to an SEC school at all, will not come to Tennessee. Maybe he has them, maybe he doesn’t — but I’m here to tell you that it would take balls the size of cantaloupes to NOT say “yes” to following in the footsteps of your revered namesake/grandfather (and uncle).

Who here could do it? I’m the loyal/sentimental type, so it would be extremely difficult for me to disappoint my grandfather.

But then I do not know young Arch AT ALL. He could be wanting to completely free himself of making the choice between Ole Miss and Tennessee by choosing NEITHER, instead going somewhere he can etch his name in a program record book that has no other Mannings in it.

I can’t wait to see what he does, and I envy whichEVER program/fanbase he chooses. And again, I really just want these young people to be happy, healthy and successful as student-athletes so that they can mature into productive, respected members of society, regardless of where they go to college.
 
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