Proof of the election fraud

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#776
utvolpj said:
Trying to claim a republican from the 1800s is ludicrous. You also omitted quite a bit like starting a war that cost the most American lives in history.
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Once again, point out what was untruthful. One of the two is on Mount Rushmore, the other is considered by many a war criminal.
 
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#777
For those mocking, intentionally misspelling, or dropping epithets about either party, remember:

Othering is the oxygen that fuels the flames of tyranny.

Also, it makes you look silly.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Once again, point out what was untruthful. One of the two is on Mount Rushmore, the other is considered by many a war criminal.
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Whitewashing history doesn't make it right. Lincoln has been rewritten into some hero which he was not
 
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utvolpj said:
Whitewashing history doesn't make it right. Lincoln has been rewritten into some hero which he was not
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So who was the better President? Lincoln or Jackson? If you had to pick one to take over for Boden tomorrow, who would you pick?
 
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utvolpj said:
Jackson. He actually prevented war and had no debt. Lincoln has more blood on his hands
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The blood of 1861 to 1865 was not on the hands of Lincoln. It was on the hands of the Confederate Democrat insurrectionists who succeeded from the Union and started war by firing on Fort Sumter. Talk about rewriting history.....
 
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OrangeTsar said:
The blood of 1861 to 1865 was not on the hands of Lincoln. It was on the hands of the Confederate Democrat insurrectionists who succeeded from the Union and started war by firing on Fort Sumter. Talk about rewriting history.....
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Oh, I see your making this up as you go along. Good luck to you and you'll fit in fine with a certain group here
 
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OrangeTsar said:
First Republican President (Lincoln) freed the slaves, saved the Union
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What is funny about this statement, is that the Republican posters here (especially @hog88) will usually chime in right away with an angry "Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The 13th Amendment did!" retort... and also attack the assertion that he saved the union. Coming from someone using Lincoln as a defense of the Republican Party, however, and we get nothing but the soothing sound of crickets chirping in the distance.
 
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#788
utvolpj said:
Oh, I see your making this up as you go along. Good luck to you and you'll fit in fine with a certain group here
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Let me make this simple enough for you to comprehend with a simple question. BLM expects me to pay reparations because my white ancestors 150 years ago MAY have been complicent in slavery, even though I can clearly claim that has nothing to do with my „modern“ status. So why does the Democrat Party, who CLEARLY advocated slavery 150 years ago get to escape their past by simply saying „well, the political parties are different now“? How does historical responsibility work exactly? Can the Democrats simply wash their hands of the consequences of their past but I can’t?
i will hang up and listen to your answer(which should be very interesting)......
 
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utvolpj said:
Oh, I see your making this up as you go along. Good luck to you and you'll fit in fine with a certain group here
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Quit just throwing out simplistic elementary school level insults and try to actually make a logical and coherent argument please. I feel like I am talking to a third grader here. Are you mentally equipped well enough to actually debate the issue?
 
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utvolpj said:
I don't tell myself anything. I know my history
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That is good. Did your history education include the discovery of gold in North Georgia and the resultant Trail of Tears? Who exactly was responsible for that travesty?
Next question, who exactly fired the first shot of the Civil War? Was that soldiers under the Command of Lincoln?
Third question, what President signed the Emancipation Proclamation and what Party was he a member of?
Fourth Question....what party controlled congress as the thirteenth amendment was passed?
 
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OrangeTsar said:
That is good. Did your history education include the discovery of gold in North Georgia and the resultant Trail of Tears? Who exactly was responsible for that travesty?
Next question, who exactly fired the first shot of the Civil War? Was that soldiers under the Command of Lincoln?
Third question, what President signed the Emancipation Proclamation and what Party was he a member of?
Fourth Question....what party controlled congress as the thirteenth amendment was passed?
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You believe the parties of the 1800s are the same as the parties today. You're dealing in half truths and chopped up history to play an agenda. There is no use to play your silly games. Enjoy the cheap likes from others who routinely do the same
 
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OrangeTsar said:
That is good. Did your history education include the discovery of gold in North Georgia and the resultant Trail of Tears? Who exactly was responsible for that travesty?
Next question, who exactly fired the first shot of the Civil War? Was that soldiers under the Command of Lincoln?
Third question, what President signed the Emancipation Proclamation and what Party was he a member of?
Fourth Question....what party controlled congress as the thirteenth amendment was passed?
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Historical Rabbit holes. Which makes the whole narrative malarkey, politcal narative be damned.
 
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utvolpj said:
You believe the parties of the 1800s are the same as the parties today. You're dealing in half truths and chopped up history to play an agenda. There is no use to play your silly games. Enjoy the cheap likes from others who routinely do the same
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Isnt that his point? It is all silly political games?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
What is funny about this statement, is that the Republican posters here (especially @hog88) will usually chime in right away with an angry "Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The 13th Amendment did!" retort... and also attack the assertion that he saved the union. Coming from someone using Lincoln as a defense of the Republican Party, however, and we get nothing but the soothing sound of crickets chirping in the distance.
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Lol
Hogg isn’t a Republican
 
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AshG said:
For those mocking, intentionally misspelling, or dropping epithets about either party, remember:

Othering is the oxygen that fuels the flames of tyranny.

Also, it makes you look silly.
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I agree we shouldn't make fun of Jo.
 
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Lest anyone make the mistaken assumption that in denouncing the Democrats that I am automatically praising the Republicans should be aware that I find both parties rather self serving and power hungry. I do find the policitical philosophy espoused by the GOP to be more coherent but I am seldom persuaded that they actually follow it when it counts. Both National parties in DC are after one thing and one thing only and that is POWER
 
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