President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

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NorthDallas40 said:
Enough! Read my last reply. Again I’ve been doing this a long time. Your source is misrepresenting issues at play. It’s complete ****. There had to be an FY2020 legislative vehicle regardless so that DoD could write contacts in FY2020 for FY2019 funds. The government is just too slow to do otherwise.
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So congress has budgetary control and allocates money that is spent by the administrative branch during the fiscal year. Wouldn't that mean that a lot of that money is actually discretionary? You'd assume a lot of funding is contingent on triggering events. For example, why would we set aside $10B to XYZ, and insist that it be done even if XYZ commits some unpardonable sin prior to deliver? This is actually where the concept of different branches of government comes into play - not so much unlike a corporation - money is allocated in a budget based on best guesses and the administrative function is to spend as is judicious but within the budget. If not done this way, why even bother with a president - just let congress rule as a big deaf, dumb, and blind committee.
 
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AM64 said:
So congress has budgetary control and allocates money that is spent by the administrative branch during the fiscal year. Wouldn't that mean that a lot of that money is actually discretionary? You'd assume a lot of funding is contingent on triggering events. For example, why would we set aside $10B to XYZ, and insist that it be done even if XYZ commits some unpardonable sin prior to deliver? This is actually where the concept of different branches of government comes into play - not so much unlike a corporation - money is allocated in a budget based on best guesses and the administrative function is to spend as is judicious but within the budget. If not done this way, why even bother with a president - just let congress rule as a big deaf, dumb, and blind committee.
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I think it depends on the allocation instrument honestly.

In this case Congress didn’t say WHAT to buy. They gave DoD a bucket of money and said use your discretion to buy what Ukraine needs. But I think by law it had to go to Ukraine.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I think it depends on the allocation instrument honestly.

In this case Congress didn’t say WHAT to buy. They gave DoD a bucket of money and said use your discretion to buy what Ukraine needs. But I think by law it had to go to Ukraine.
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Still seems like only our government would be stupid enough to dictate the spending of funds without discretion - a lot can happen during a fiscal year. It's almost like Johnson and McNamara running a war on their own rather than telling the military what the goals are and letting those close enough to the action make decisions. Micromanagement is the bane of civilization.
 
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AM64 said:
Still seems like only our government would be stupid enough to dictate the spending of funds without discretion - a lot can happen during a fiscal year. It's almost like Johnson and McNamara running a war on their own rather than telling the military what the goals are and letting those close enough to the action make decisions. Micromanagement is the bane of civilization.
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If you’re looking for me to argue that our government is not a bloated inefficient sloth laden with bureaucracy I’m NOT your huckleberry
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is not how it works

Because of Trump's freeze, the Ukraine received the funds well after the September 30th deadline... and thus, not within the fiscal year in which it had been pledged. You don't know what you are talking about.
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So what even if Ukraine got the funds late. It was free money; why should we have given it at all? I'm all for anybody who wants to cut foreign aid.
 
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You know at this point I almost regret baiting BB85 into his irrational multi page shill diatribe which I knew he wouldn’t be able to resist parroting.

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… almost 😏
 
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BayVol7 said:
some dumb ****
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As many have pointed out to you you’re a legend in your own mind.

You must be the most unaware, unintelligent, internally absorbed, clueless fool this forum has seen even topping Brad Pitt wanna be and most of us didn’t think that was possible. They even made a contest to be you.

You suck at quoting too. 🤡


 
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NorthDallas40 said:
As many have pointed out to your idiot ass you’re a legend in your own mind.

You must be the most unaware, unintelligent, internally absorbed, clueless fool this forum has seen even topping Brad Pitt wanna be and most of us didn’t think that was possible. They even made a contest to be you.

You suck at quoting too. 🤡


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Um, these are actually compliments coming from you.
 
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BayVol7 said:
Thanks!
If you and AM64 are this rankled about me when I am not even present, I think I’m doing ok here. *bows*
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There we go. The last bastion of the defeated troll. The “you mad bro” idiocy play to try and twist open contempt and mockery into some kind of anger instead. Thanks for playing, you’re dismissed 🤡
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
There we go. The last bastion of the defeated troll. The “you mad bro” idiocy play to try and twist open contempt and mockery into some kind of anger instead. Thanks for playing, you’re dismissed 🤡
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Try and twist? Mad?? Lol who is under whose skin again?
 
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