What do VN GOPers think of the Cheney issue?

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All this talk about more than two parties does not make sense to me. Temporary lull, if lucky. The whole dang system is broken and additional parties would be under the same pressures.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Yeah that was the whole play on the shirt. Like I said they were all over our liberal hotbed. Remember the incident happened I believe at Dubya’s Crawford TX ranch. (Looked it up was actually further south than the Crawford Ranch)
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Pretty sure it wasn't W's place. May have been a hunt club where you get out of the truck and somebody kicks a cage with a quail in it. Either way, I'm okay with the Aerosmith reference.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Pretty sure it wasn't W's place. May have been a hunt club where you get out of the truck and somebody kicks a cage with a quail in it. Either way, I'm okay with the Aerosmith reference.
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No it was farther south. And I’d guess it was dove hunting most quail have gone the way of the dodo here in TX 😥 Quail are ground nesters and the fireants eat the young amongst other pressures like loss of habitat.

Edit: was indeed quail hunting. Rich bastards... odd gun 28 ga

Dick Cheney hunting accident - Wikipedia
 
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My party has fallen on hard times and it's hard to understand the loyalty to Trump. He's wildly unpopular outside his 35% base.

We've lost the popular vote 7 out of the last 8 elections and it's simply because we've lost our way. No fiscal discipline, no thought of reaching out to the other side for the good of the country. Tariffs and anti free trade. We're basically democrats now.
 
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MurphyVol said:
My party has fallen on hard times and it's hard to understand the loyalty to Trump. He's wildly unpopular outside his 35% base.

We've lost the popular vote 7 out of the last 8 elections and it's simply because we've lost our way. No fiscal discipline, no thought of reaching out to the other side for the good of the country. Tariffs and anti free trade. We're basically democrats now.
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All you GOPers need to do is offer a bunch of free (taxpayers funded) stuff. You’ll close the gap.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No it was farther south. And I’d guess it was dove hunting most quail have gone the way of the dodo here in TX 😥 Quail are ground nesters and the fireants eat the young amongst other pressures like loss of habitat.
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Wikipedia says quail. If so, this lends credence to my completely unsubstantiated theory he was shooting captive/placed birds. Most people won't care, but if true, I personally think its kind of ishy... regardless of politics.
 
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General Jack said:
What will be worth watching is how much influence she has as the emerging leader of the anti-trump faction in the GOP... and whether that faction survives and makes a difference.
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GOP has some figuring to do. I lean R, but both these parties go through change every few years. D party has a lot of internal squabbling at the moment too. They just happened to have won an election recently so it doesn’t get much attention.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Wikipedia says quail. If so, this lends credence to my completely unsubstantiated theory he was shooting captive/placed birds. Most people won't care, but if true, I personally think its kind of ishy... regardless of politics.
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Read the edit I did. Yes it was quail. While it may not have been one of those completely rigged shoots, I just don’t know, of basically pet birds it had to be a managed hunt and game reservation as a minimum. You just don’t get a group of people to hunt quail in TX anymore there aren’t enough left. There are a few rich conservationists making an effort with T Boone Pickens being the prominent one but they had to guarantee birds if they were hunting quail in TX or have a bunch of bored shooters.

And no I’m not a fan of staged hunts either. Plentiful game is one thing that’s a well managed ranch but yes we have a lot of staged hunts.
 
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OJ Simpson Backs Liz Cheney: ‘Truth And Honesty’ Is The ‘Enemy’ To Many ‘Republican Politicians’

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OJ Simpson Backs Liz Cheney: 'Truth And Honesty' Is The 'Enemy' To Many 'Republican Politicians'
 
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MurphyVol said:
My party has fallen on hard times and it's hard to understand the loyalty to Trump. He's wildly unpopular outside his 35% base.

We've lost the popular vote 7 out of the last 8 elections and it's simply because we've lost our way. No fiscal discipline, no thought of reaching out to the other side for the good of the country. Tariffs and anti free trade. We're basically democrats now.
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Really outside Biden "Winning"😉 and the dimocrats screwing with Georgia. Republicans took 14 seats in the House. Dims hold only a 9 seat lead and with the way things are going the Republicans should have no problem taking the House back next fall. They lost only 3 senate seats.

Republicans gained one Governorship in 2020 now hold 27 of 50 Governors Mansions.

As for as the popular vote goes I don't see Republicans ever winning that again as long as these large populated cities continue to embrace anti-American tendencies and have a thing for socialism.
 
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What's happening to Cheney is stupid. It's entirely political and has nothing to do with what's best for this country, and it's a slap in the face of those who elected her to represent them. If she had done something actually deserving of this, like say a Maxine Waters inciting violence in a state she doesn't even represent, I'd get it. It would be deserved. But this is just politics at its ugliest.
 
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Weezer said:
What's happening to Cheney is stupid. It's entirely political and has nothing to do with what's best for this country, and it's a slap in the face of those who elected her to represent them. If she had done something actually deserving of this, like say a Maxine Waters inciting violence in a state she doesn't even represent, I'd get it. It would be deserved. But this is just politics at its ugliest.
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It's nice to know, that in times like these, our politicians are tackling the important issues of the day.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
It's nice to know, that in times like these, our politicians are tackling the important issues of the day.
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And there's the double-edged sword. Is that good or bad for us? Do we really want the idiots we've elected tackling important issues? I'm not sure they're competent enough to do that. I sure as hell don't trust any of them.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
And their "club" right now is the Trump Train. Got to hand it to Trump, he's kept himself relevant and popular within the Republican party. It's entirely possible no one ever really thought of such a scenario in THIS country. Trump has a unique talent that has allowed himself to grift to the top
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Americans love An underdog so you can think the MSM, the Dems and the never-trumper Rs. Daily for 5 years they vilified and went after the man and got nothing, that brought a lot of people to his side.
 
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Weezer said:
What's happening to Cheney is stupid. It's entirely political and has nothing to do with what's best for this country, and it's a slap in the face of those who elected her to represent them. If she had done something actually deserving of this, like say a Maxine Waters inciting violence in a state she doesn't even represent, I'd get it. It would be deserved. But this is just politics at its ugliest.
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Her fellow house R members elected her to the position they are talking about removing her from.
 
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hog88 said:
Her fellow house R members elected her to the position they are talking about removing her from.
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Don't go taking away from my point about Maxine Waters, dammit.
 
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General Jack said:
I hope you're right. My impression is that the party capitulates to him over all else, policy and logic be damned.
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Some in the party capitulates to him but there are those of us who think he will or already has destroyed the party. I'm an old GOPer...Reagan man. Trump is the antithesis of that.
 
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Orangeburst said:
All this talk about more than two parties does not make sense to me. Temporary lull, if lucky. The whole dang system is broken and additional parties would be under the same pressures.
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There will be a two party system as long as we have winner take all contests. There's a proof of this somewhere.
 
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hog88 said:
Americans love An underdog so you can think the MSM, the Dems and the never-trumper Rs. Daily for 5 years they vilified and went after the man and got nothing, that brought a lot of people to his side.
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You can't blame the Trump fiasco on anyone but the people who supported him and those who continue to do so.
It rests 100% on their shoulders.
 
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