Arizona Election Audit

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BowlBrother85 said:
Republicans sure fought like hell from having a comprehensive audit in 2000. For those of us who remember that, it makes this line hard to swallow now. A comprehensive audit in the state of Florida really could have changed the outcome of the entire election... unlike what is going on now in Arizona.
Also, does anyone remember what Trump supporters were chanting at the TCF Center in Detroit the day after the election? It was "Stop the Count!" Republicans even filed suit to try and stop votes from being cast because Trump had the lead, but Biden was quickly gaining. So Republicans wanted to keep counting votes in states where Biden had a lead, but they also wanted to stop votes from being counted in states where Trump had a lead and Biden was closing. That doesn't sound like they were working in the best interest of democracy to me. They just wanted to do whatever was necessary to win.
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No saints for sure. We are in a horrible place that not sure anybody would like the path we are headed.
 
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Weezer said:
You also refer to Trump as a horrible liar. Are you now saying he was being truthful? Which is it?
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Trump is a liar... but this has more to do with one's own perception rather than being just a black and white, true or false claim, and Trump hasn't been consistent. The electoral college results of the two elections were the same.
 
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Lol, this is some Q level nonesense.

You guy jump from one load of sht to another.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump is a liar... but this has more to do with one's own perception rather than being just a black and white, true or false claim, and Trump hasn't been consistent. The electoral college results of the two elections were the same.
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If it was a lie then, it's a lie now. Pretty simple how that works, applying the same standards to both sides.
 
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Weezer said:
If it was a lie then, it's a lie now. Pretty simple how that works, applying the same standards to both sides.
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I just explained that it is neither the truth or a lie. It has to do with one's own perception. A close election vs a landslide election is relative to the individual interpretation of the results. There is more than one way to perceive the same set of facts.

For example: FACT: Florida beat Tennessee 35-29 in 1996.

You could perceive that game to have been close (because of the final score) or you could perceive it to have been a blowout because Florida led 35-0 early in the 2nd quarter and Tennessee made the final score look a lot closer than the game had been played most of the way. This is where one's own perception comes into play and how you choose to define things.

My point is that Trump's perception of the same result was not consistent. In 2016, Trump called a 306-232 electoral college vote total a "landslide" but in 2020, the same result now demands law suits, recounts, audits and investigations... well after the inauguration has taken place.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Republicans sure fought like hell from having a comprehensive audit in 2000. For those of us who remember that, it makes this line hard to swallow now. A comprehensive audit in the state of Florida really could have changed the outcome of the entire election... unlike what is going on now in Arizona.
Also, does anyone remember what Trump supporters were chanting at the TCF Center in Detroit the day after the election? It was "Stop the Count!" Republicans even filed suit to try and stop votes from being counted because Trump had the lead, but Biden was quickly gaining. So Republicans wanted to keep counting votes in states where Biden had a lead, but they also wanted to stop votes from being counted in states where Trump had a lead and Biden was closing. That doesn't sound like they were working in the best interest of democracy to me. They just wanted to do whatever was necessary to win.
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Yeah... 'stop the count' ... good grief trumps supporters are dumb
 
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VolinWayne said:
How is this Q level nonsense? You don't even make sense sometimes with your rants. Grow up already
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That was from the Twitter account of Kelli Ward. She was promoting Q'Anon conspiracy theories until the March 4th prophecy fell through. She also promoted the "Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC theory" and "PizzaGate". And she still claims that the people who breached the U.S. Capitol on January 6th were entirely made up of Antifa and Black Lives Matter members, who were just trying to make the MAGA followers look bad.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's not a question of honesty... it's a question of consistency. I'm not surprised that concept is over your head.
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We know Trump is inconsistent. You're just showing yourself to be inconsistent as well. You're saying it's okay for Dems to act like Trump, behavior you condemned, because "he did it first". Think like an adult rather than as a child. Bad behavior is bad behavior, no matter which side it comes from. If it's wrong for Trump to do it, which you've clearly expressed your feelings on Trump and his behavior, then it's wrong for the Dems to do it. "He did it first" is not a justification, it's an excuse.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
In my experiences, the guy in the room who has everything figured out, is usually the stupidest guy in the room. Obviously, you've never been in that room
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I've gotten that a few times, from people with hit/run arguments with no substance.
Thank goodness that's not you, eh?
 
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Weezer said:
We know Trump is inconsistent. You're just showing yourself to be inconsistent as well. You're saying it's okay for Dems to act like Trump, behavior you condemned, because "he did it first". Think like an adult rather than as a child. Bad behavior is bad behavior, no matter which side it comes from. If it's wrong for Trump to do it, which you've clearly expressed your feelings on Trump and his behavior, then it's wrong for the Dems to do it. "He did it first" is not a justification, it's an excuse.
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What are you talking about? Where did I say, "He did it first."
 
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