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So if a parent decided it’s not safe for their teen to get an unproven vaccine, how does that make them bad parents?
The vaccine is proven. I would love to see whatever "science" you have that says otherwise.

If a parent refuses to take the appropriate steps to ensure their child is protected from an infectious disease via an easily accessible vaccine they are a bad parent. That's grounds for them having their child taken away from them IMO.
 
Back to topic, and serious question:

For those who do not believe that we are nearing herd immunity in most areas of the country through a combination of natural infection, vaccination, and the mysterious "background protection", how would you explain the numbers since early Jan and the graphs I posted a couple pages back?
 
The vaccine is proven. I would love to see whatever "science" you have that says otherwise.

If a parent refuses to take the appropriate steps to ensure their child is protected from an infectious disease via an easily accessible vaccine they are a bad parent. That's grounds for them having their child taken away from them IMO.
Yeah... no.

I’ve had both shots. My wife has had both shots. Yet given what we know so far, I’m not sold that my 13 year old needs to be vaccinated and I’m debating it for my 19 year old only because I think he may eventually need it to return to school next Fall.
 
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Yeah... no.

I’ve had both shots. My wife has had both shots. Yet given what we know so far, I’m not sold that my 13 year old needs to be vaccinated and I’m debating it for my birthday 19 year old only because I think he may eventually need it to return to school next Fall.
What do you know so far?
 
No. Unless I had to work. You mentioned asymptotic. Well if I am feeling good, there is no reason for me to avoid anyone or anything. If someone feels they need to stay safe by staying home, wearing a mask or shield then by all means do so.

But I have zero responsibility in keeping anyone besides me and my immediate family safe. It’s everyone else’s responsibility to do what they feel is necessary to protect themselves and the ones they care about.
So no (unless you have to work - and your employer may have something to say about that).
I guess you say no because you feel a personal responsibility to not place others at an unreasonable risk of harm.
What if your symptoms are mild and you are only 85% certain that you are contagious?
 
I've seen him post a few graphs that anyone can look up, nothing particularly groundbreaking that I can't find on Fox News, CNN, or wherever else. Like I said I think he's an MD but it's clear virology isn't something he's that familiar with.

I'm assuming you are not an expert on virology so I question your ability to determine if someone else isn't familiar with it
 
The vaccine is proven. I would love to see whatever "science" you have that says otherwise.

If a parent refuses to take the appropriate steps to ensure their child is protected from an infectious disease via an easily accessible vaccine they are a bad parent. That's grounds for them having their child taken away from them IMO.

depends on what you mean by proven.

What is an emergency use authorization (EUA)?
In an emergency, like a pandemic, it may not be possible to have all the evidence that the FDA would usually have before approving a drug, device, or a test.
When there is a declared emergency, the FDA can make a judgment that it's worth releasing something for use even without all the evidence that would fully establish its effectiveness and safety. If there’s evidence that strongly suggests that patients have benefited from a treatment or test, the agency can issue an EUA to make it available.

What Is Emergency Use Authorization?

The FDA is making a trade-off on need for treatment vs need for full testing of safety and efficacy.

I wouldn't blame a parent for waiting a while for more evidence to come in or full FDA approval before proceeding.
 
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