Arizona Election Audit

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TN Ribs said:
Thank you for proving my point, your fealty to the serial liar is pathetic. Nothing compares to the The Big Lie - it's anti-American and anti-Democracy, the sooner you realize this the sooner you can start to contribute to society.
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It has nothing to do with Trump, but an election system in which Americans overwhelmingly trust and "the Big Lie" doesn't circulate every election cycle for four years to repeat the next, entirely dependent upon which party won/lost. That's my fealty to America and a constitutional republic, you dribbling fool. And that is the cycle we increasingly find ourselves in, beginning with the Bush/Gore contest, continued and exponentially magnified with Democrats (again) in 2016, then 2020 with the shoe on the Republican foot this time.

The "anti-Americans and anti-Democrats" are those propping up the Marxists in blackface known as BLM and their Vanilla Ice Antifa counterparts - you know, ACTUAL commies and anarchists who have no affinity for this nation and seek to destroy it. Under cover provided by the Democrat party and and retrograde 'progressivism'.

I'm not sure why people like you venture onto forums. You don't have the intellectual capacity to contribute anything of value.
 
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RavinDave said:
And I was assuming an Elmer Fudd connection.
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BowlBrother85 said:
The Treasury Department did not specify. That is just how they described it, as "sensitive campaign information", in their statement announcing new sanctions against Konstantin Kilimnik and Russia.
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Uh trumps election owned that info, they can share it with whoever they wish. I’ve never understood why this was such a big deal to you.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Is it?
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The federal constitution puts ALL power with the state legislatures to select electors and conducting elections. There is NO exception, no carve-outs for governors, Secs. of State, election boards, nor the judiciary to change, ignore, or modify the rules determined by the state legislature. There is no "In case of viral pandemic..." exclusion. No allowances for some voters or their ballots to more or less scrutiny than others or variance in their process (equal protection and application of law). Yet, by mid-September, Democrats filed at least 250 lawsuits nationally to do just that. All are illegitimate actions, illegal actions.

PA, for example, not content to merely violate election laws in this accepted manner, went above and beyond to legislatively change election laws with Act 77, but did so in violation of their state constitution, too. And that's a Republican legislature and Republican governor. In fact, I blame Republican controlled legislatures in many of these states for allowing it, whether a judge or court ordered it, unelected bureaucrats, politician or political appointee.

So, yes; it is inarguable that multiple states violated election law, it must be remedied and not allowed to happen. There's no reason to assume we've valid elections if run like banana republics.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Joe Biden didn't have anything to gain personally from an investigation into Viktor Shokin. Once again, Hunter Biden was not under investigation. Burisma Holdings was under investigation, but that stemmed from activity that pre-dated his board membership in the company.

However, Donald Trump did have a lot to gain personally from a publicly announced investigation into the Bidens.
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His sons job not being under investigation doesnt help him?

And fine just remove the gain portion. Why does a veep get to decide what OTHER nations do but the president does not.

Biden wanted ukraine looking at corruption. Trump wanted ukraine looking at corruption.
 
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Weezer said:
lmao Are you saying it's okay for Hillary and other Dems to sink to Trump's level? You criticize Trump for his behavior, then defend your heroes when they sink to his level with a playground excuse. "He did it first!" What happened to be the better person? I'm tired, and ready to go to sleep, so I'm not going to type out some long argument. It's obvious you can't have a real conversation on the topic because in your eyes, the left can do no wrong. Just when you halfway admit something, you immediately turn back and go on the defense. They're all a bunch of corrupt ass holes that act like petulant children. That's practically every politician. Maybe there's a good one somewhere, but they're harder to find than Bigfoot.
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Thats stupid. Trump can say whatever trash he wants every day without accountability.

Because if his opponents respond in kind, they aren't supposed to "sink to his level"...

Well then...🙄🙄
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
Uh trumps election owned that info, they can share it with whoever they wish. I’ve never understood why this was such a big deal to you.
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The left has absolutely no curiosity why it is "sensitive", what is it's utility to a foreign power if leaked, or why it was leaked. IF it was leaked.
They were just as incurious and unquestioning for four years and continuing today re: the Russia collusion hoax. And that was during Trump's term. But now - oh, now - we can believe it since another agency headed by an unelected bureaucrat answers to the same man who stated he campaigned for prez because Trump said neo-Nazis were very fine people. A bald-faced lie he repeats post-election.

Until Treasury shows it's hand, this is yet another BS hoax.

I don't think people like Bowl want to see the evidence. They never petition for it, never question it, and when it's found to be the most spectacular lie and abuse in federal law enforcement history, they try to germinate another field of lies with another rancid seed. It's a big deal to him because he's married to a nearly five year old hoax. He swallowed the "Russian Bounty on U.S. Soldiers!!" hoax, and the "Trump Calls Soldiers Suckers and Losers" hoax. These people are chirping apparatchiks who need programming and will swallow anything deposited into their mouth.
 
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A 70 year old man in Delaware County, Pennsylvania named Bruce Bartman, was just convicted of illegally voting for Donald Trump. He used the driver's license of his dead mother to register her to vote online, and he then filled out an absentee ballot in her name. At the time of the election on November 3rd, his mother had been dead for 12 years. Bartman told the judge that:

"I listened to too much propaganda and made a stupid mistake."

This factual account of voter fraud in favor of Donald Trump has not yet been reported by Fox News.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
A 70 year old man in Delaware County, Pennsylvania named Bruce Bartman, was just convicted of illegally voting for Donald Trump. He used the driver's license of his dead mother to register her to vote online, and he then filled out an absentee ballot in her name. At the time of the election on November 3rd, his mother had been dead for 12 years. Bartman told the judge that:

"I listened to too much propaganda and made a stupid mistake."

This factual account of voter fraud in favor of Donald Trump has not yet been reported by Fox News.
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I’m sure he was the only one who took advantage of the improvised rules this past election.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
A 70 year old man in Delaware County, Pennsylvania named Bruce Bartman, was just convicted of illegally voting for Donald Trump. He used the driver's license of his dead mother to register her to vote online, and he then filled out an absentee ballot in her name. At the time of the election on November 3rd, his mother had been dead for 12 years. Bartman told the judge that:

"I listened to too much propaganda and made a stupid mistake."

This factual account of voter fraud in favor of Donald Trump has not yet been reported by Fox News.
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So, just lying at random now or just that unconcerned with factual accuracy? Pennsylvania Republican slapped with felony charges for casting ballot for long-dead mother
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
A 70 year old man in Delaware County, Pennsylvania named Bruce Bartman, was just convicted of illegally voting for Donald Trump. He used the driver's license of his dead mother to register her to vote online, and he then filled out an absentee ballot in her name. At the time of the election on November 3rd, his mother had been dead for 12 years. Bartman told the judge that:

"I listened to too much propaganda and made a stupid mistake."

This factual account of voter fraud in favor of Donald Trump has not yet been reported by Fox News.
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It seems like you are really concerned about this audit. Why? Why do you really care? If it’s just stupid and a waste of time, then that means it fails in line directly with what the government does for about 95% of their time.

This audit could show significant fraud for Trump. Wouldn’t you want to know if that happened? I voted for Trump but I want to to know.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
It seems like you are really concerned about this audit. Why? Why do you really care? If it’s just stupid and a waste of time, then that means it fails in line directly with what the government does for about 95% of their time.

This audit could show significant fraud for Trump. Wouldn’t you want to know if that happened? I voted for Trump but I want to to know.
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You are completely missing my point. I don't have a problem with this audit taking place. I have a problem with who is conducting the audit. Republican members of the Arizona state legislature should have hired a firm that was impartial to the outcome. Instead, they hired a firm called "Cyber Ninjas Inc." which is owned by Doug Logan, who has close to ties to a 2020 Trump Campaign attorney named Sidney Powell. In December, Logan posted provably false allegations concerning voter fraud on Powell's website, including an allegation about Dominion Voting Systems that Powell is now being sued for making at press conferences and on cable news shows. Also, Logan has described the 2020 Presidential Election as having been "rigged" in Biden's favor. Logan arrived at this determination before his firm even began the audit. So, he has prejudged the outcome. That is unprofessional. A legitimate auditor would never take sides like that prior to the audit even starting.

While knowing all of these things beforehand, why did the Arizona state legislature hire Cyber Ninjas Inc.? Is it a factual accounting for the vote they are looking for? Or did they simply hire someone who they believe will reach their desired conclusion... and thereby undermine the outcome of the election? This is a farcical exercise.
 
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Tastylicks said:
Thats stupid. Trump can say whatever trash he wants every day without accountability.

Because if his opponents respond in kind, they aren't supposed to "sink to his level"...

Well then...🙄🙄
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If they sink to his level, they're no better than he is. So you're saying it's okay for them to act in the same way you condemn Trump for acting.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
It seems like you are really concerned about this audit. Why? Why do you really care? If it’s just stupid and a waste of time, then that means it fails in line directly with what the government does for about 95% of their time.

This audit could show significant fraud for Trump. Wouldn’t you want to know if that happened? I voted for Trump but I want to to know.
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It could result in findings of fraud, however those findings will be suspect because the people conducting the audit are already known to be in league with Sidney Powell. Should have hired a legit firm.
 
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