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#626
Septic said:
@tnmarktx may be the first poster I've seen that is consistently clowned on by both sides.

He literally brings nothing to the table.
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You're literally the run of the mill VN poster that gets their rocks off by getting internet cred from other VN peers. Congrats.
 
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#627
Weezer said:
Remember Filegate under the Clintons?

White House FBI files controversy - Wikipedia

Or the IRS targeting scandal under Obama?

Or is your memory selective to Republicans attempting to weaponize government agencies?
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I do remember the Lois Lerner and IRS scandal under Barack Obama and that was dead wrong of him and his administration. It was a flagrant abuse of power. I said so at the time... that was a real low point for his presidency. It shouldn't have happened.
 
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tnmarktx said:
So even though the reporting over the raid is true and it's a clear weaponization if federal forces against a political opponent, you're going to make yourself out to be a liar. That's cool, just checking.

What happened on the 6th other than the murder of an unarmed protester?
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What reporting over the raid are you talking about?
 
#634
#634
tnmarktx said:
Giuliani’s home searched as U.S. probe of former Trump lawyer intensifies
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I'm not seeing where that article indicates that Biden or Merrick has pressured anyone to go outside of their reasonable investigatory powers regarding Rudy. I do see where Rudy's dealings have been an issue for over a year ( by the way Biden wasn't in office then).

"Federal prosecutors have been looking at Giuliani for nearly 1-1/2 years.

In November 2019, they sought records of payments to Giuliani as part of an active criminal investigation, according to a grand jury subpoena seen by Reuters."
 
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#635
BowlBrother85 said:
The investigation into Rudy Giuliani's conduct in the Ukraine began well before Joe Biden was elected.
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So after calling Trump out for supposedly using legal resources at his beck and call to go after dems, are you suggesting he used those resources to go after Rudy (since it started before Biden was elected)? Would this mean that Obama's wingmen never acted against republicans or that Obama never turned the IRS hounds loose on them? What about the get Trump process that started before Trump was even in office - you know, the one that fizzled in congress when they tried to fire him.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I'm not seeing where that article indicates that Biden or Merrick has pressured anyone to go outside of their reasonable investigatory powers regarding Rudy. I do see where Rudy's dealings have been an issue for over a year ( by the way Biden wasn't in office then).

"Federal prosecutors have been looking at Giuliani for nearly 1-1/2 years.

In November 2019, they sought records of payments to Giuliani as part of an active criminal investigation, according to a grand jury subpoena seen by Reuters."
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Did you read the reason for the raid? The fara act is borderline unconditional. Do you actually think a left leaning media would say it's a political attack? 99% of the media will post it like it's a legit big deal.
 
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#638
tnmarktx said:
Did you read the reason for the raid? The fara act is borderline unconditional. Do you actually think a left leaning media would say it's a political attack? 99% of the media will post it like it's a legit big deal.
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Spell it out for me. What was the reason for the raid that resulted in an invalid search warrant? How was Biden involved? What court says FARA is unconstitutional? I'm not educated, I don't know.
 
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#639
BowlBrother85 said:
Exactly... and Donald Trump never even tried to hide that he was trying to influence his Attorney General (either Sessions or Barr) into launching an investigation into a critic or into an opponent of his. Over his last two years in office, Trump often tweeted that the AG should be "looking into" the Bidens, Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.
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Baby crackhead Biden was a poster child for this act - actually crossed two oceans to work with Ukraine and with China. You'd think that if Trump had so successfully weaponized the DOJ, they would be on the hunt.
 
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AM64 said:
So after calling Trump out for supposedly using legal resources at his beck and call to go after dems, are you suggesting he used those resources to go after Rudy (since it started before Biden was elected)? Would this mean that Obama's wingmen never acted against republicans or that Obama never turned the IRS hounds loose on them? What about the get Trump process that started before Trump was even in office - you know, the one that fizzled in congress when they tried to fire him.
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There have been (anonymously sourced) reports from within the DOJ that search warrants in the Rudy Giuliani investigation were blocked by AG William Barr, before he stepped down near the end of December.

... and I just talked about the IRS/Lois Lerner abuse of power, and I admitted that was wrong.
 
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#643
tnmarktx said:
About Trump using the DOJ as a weapon.
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Are you going to deny that while he was President, Donald Trump frequently used his Twitter account to encourage his AG's (both Jeff Sessions and William Barr) to investigate the Bidens, Hillary Clinton and Democratic Party members of Congress such as Adam Schiff? He did it all the time. It wasn't a secret. It was on Twitter.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
So what looks to be a law review abstract (maybe?) from 2020 (guess who president then) indicates Biden had Rudy's apartment raided and it was an illegal search?
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Not sure what a law review of the fara act has to do with who was president in 2020, but whatever. Point is, the fara act is seen as a vehicle to go after political opponents. Very predictably, that's what's going on now.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Are you going to deny that while he was President, Donald Trump frequently used his Twitter account to encourage his AG's (both Jeff Sessions and William Barr) to investigate the Bidens, Hillary Clinton and Democratic Party members of Congress such as Adam Schiff? He did it all the time. It wasn't a secret. It was on Twitter.
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Were there ever any investigations performed?
 
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#646
tnmarktx said:
Not sure what a law review of the fara act has to do with who was president in 2020, but whatever. Point is, the fara act is seen as a vehicle to go after political opponents. Very predictably, that's what's going on now.
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So you have nothing indicating that Biden or his subordinates are pressuring this, but some article says it could happen, and this means it did?
 
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clarksvol00 said:
So you have nothing indicating that Biden or his subordinates are pressuring this, but some article says it could happen, and this means it did?
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The fara act much like the logan act is a bullsh!t law that is most likely unconstitutional. It's a very weak reason to raid someone. Care to wager if he gets charged with anything?
 
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