The Atlanta Braves - Hello darkness my old friend

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TBrown said:
dYinG sPoRt
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That's a sign of streaming becoming more popular as a method of watching the games, not necessarily baseball in general.

The "death of baseball" is widely exaggerated...revenues have never been higher and regional TV ratings are better than the NBA. However there is no doubt baseball has trouble creating buzz, marketing its stars, and has trouble attracting a younger audience.
 
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05_never_again said:
That's a sign of streaming becoming more popular as a method of watching the games, not necessarily baseball in general.

The "death of baseball" is widely exaggerated...revenues have never been higher and regional TV ratings are better than the NBA. However there is no doubt baseball has trouble creating buzz, marketing its stars, and has trouble attracting a younger audience.
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Agree. Baseball is doing this in spite of themselves. Manfred and Clark are both dyed in the wool in idiots.

Baseball is the ultimate common ground sport for all. And ultimate background sport to watch as well. My mother texts me asking about the Braves and she is not a sports person at all. Imagine how great it could be if it was actually easy to watch your team for the majority of the fan bases and they actually marketed the Trouts and Acunas. Now, I understand Trout is a little boring but Acuna is the coolest dude I’ve ever seen lol, he should be all over everything
 
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Florida Stanley said:
Agree. Baseball is doing this in spite of themselves. Manfred and Clark are both dyed in the wool in idiots.

Baseball is the ultimate common ground sport for all. And ultimate background sport to watch as well. My mother texts me asking about the Braves and she is not a sports person at all. Imagine how great it could be if it was actually easy to watch your team for the majority of the fan bases and they actually marketed the Trouts and Acunas. Now, I understand Trout is a little boring but Acuna is the coolest dude I’ve ever seen lol, he should be all over everything
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Imagine if they didn’t black out their own players from watching like Josh Bell 😂
 
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It’s just hard for the casual fan to stay locked in for 162. Many of my friends check the status at the all star break, then start following around Sept/October.
 
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For me, I’m a Braves fan as much or more than I’m a baseball fan. I could watch every Braves game, and I’d love to have season tickets if I was close to Atlanta. I follow the rest of it casually, unless it involves my fantasy team.
 
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Florida Stanley said:
Agree. Baseball is doing this in spite of themselves. Manfred and Clark are both dyed in the wool in idiots.

Baseball is the ultimate common ground sport for all. And ultimate background sport to watch as well. My mother texts me asking about the Braves and she is not a sports person at all. Imagine how great it could be if it was actually easy to watch your team for the majority of the fan bases and they actually marketed the Trouts and Acunas. Now, I understand Trout is a little boring but Acuna is the coolest dude I’ve ever seen lol, he should be all over everything
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You said that baseball is the ultimate background sport - that is 100% true and something that MLB needed to figure out how to leverage about a decade ago. A lot of NBA fans aren't sitting down and watching every game, especially on cable TV. They follow the game on whatever score app they use and social media while doing other things. They are not what you'd call casual fans, but they follow the league in a more casual, indirect way.

Baseball is tailor made for that. More so than basketball. There are 162 games, basically every day of the week, and people aren't sitting down and watching every single pitch of all of them. Hell, baseball was the most popular sport in an era where there was one nationally televised game per week, and if you wanted to follow your team your options were the radio or tomorrow morning's newspaper. You could be an incredibly interested fan, but hardly every see your team actually play. The NBA figured that out, but MLB did not and still has not.
 
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AV_12 said:
I watch a piece of every game just about every night/day. Mostly love of the sport, but certainly fantasy and betting driven as well. I watch more on my phone and computer than I do TV
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My dad/brother got mlb.tv for free with t-mobile. I have two TVs on the living room. It’s perfect to have on the smaller tv if I’m watching the Braves or playing video games or even other sports. Also we’ve been super slow at work the last month or so so I’ve put the game on while working from home and mute it and man it’s nice to have on for background purposes. I love the sport, it’s my favorite...and love the history of it.
 
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Florida Stanley said:
Agree. Baseball is doing this in spite of themselves. Manfred and Clark are both dyed in the wool in idiots.

Baseball is the ultimate common ground sport for all. And ultimate background sport to watch as well. My mother texts me asking about the Braves and she is not a sports person at all. Imagine how great it could be if it was actually easy to watch your team for the majority of the fan bases and they actually marketed the Trouts and Acunas. Now, I understand Trout is a little boring but Acuna is the coolest dude I’ve ever seen lol, he should be all over everything
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To your point about the marketing, I do like they’ve really built around Tatis the last year or so. They seem to finally be embracing the Latin culture that makes the game so much fun. Acuña, Tatis and Soto should be the building blocks to get young people and minorities more interested in the game.
 
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The other thing...I know pace of play is somewhat a problem. But I think MLB has taken the wrong approach to how the game is being played. All the old timers and freaking Manfred think “oh all these home runs and strikeouts are hurting the quality of the game” but I completely disagree. Those are the two coolest things you can do on a baseball field. And anytime Manfred is asked about it all he wants to do is limit those and bitch about the sport. Embrace those things. Make those things cooler.
 
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05_never_again said:
That's a sign of streaming becoming more popular as a method of watching the games, not necessarily baseball in general.

The "death of baseball" is widely exaggerated...revenues have never been higher and regional TV ratings are better than the NBA. However there is no doubt baseball has trouble creating buzz, marketing its stars, and has trouble attracting a younger audience.
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Streaming up but only old folks watching? 2+2 doesn’t equal 4 there.
 
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AV_12 said:
I watch a piece of every game just about every night/day. Mostly love of the sport, but certainly fantasy and betting driven as well. I watch more on my phone and computer than I do TV
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Same before WFH and Extra Innings. Now every TV inside and outside my house has some game on from noon to midnight
 
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The thing that I’ve preached on and something that isn’t a problem now but they can’t fix it. They really screwed up on social media. For years baseball wouldn’t allow any of their highlights on a platform that wasn’t theirs. Hell in the last two years they tried to shut down jomboy and pitching ninja, two guys who promote the game extremely well and are entertaining follows. Meanwhile NBA and NFL were out there taking advantage of it, letting people create their own highlight films and getting their product out there to everyone including young people. They can’t fix that IMO...there a whole generation they’ve lost because of that
 
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zjcvols said:
The thing that I’ve preached on and something that isn’t a problem now but they can’t fix it. They really screwed up on social media. For years baseball wouldn’t allow any of their highlights on a platform that wasn’t theirs. Hell in the last two years they tried to shut down jomboy and pitching ninja, two guys who promote the game extremely well and are entertaining follows. Meanwhile NBA and NFL were out there taking advantage of it, letting people create their own highlight films and getting their product out there to everyone including young people. They can’t fix that IMO...there a whole generation they’ve lost because of that
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Nothing encapsulates MLB's stupidity more than their attempted shutdowns of those two guys. It was so small-minded and backwards-thinking to see social media accounts like that and have your thought be "Oh that's bad, they are using MLB content outside of our network, shut it down."

Channels like that are free advertising for your product, you morons. You don't control that channel...so what? Do you think Jomboy, Pitching Ninja, et al make people more or less likely to watch baseball?
 
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05_never_again said:
Nothing encapsulates MLB's stupidity more than their attempted shutdowns of those two guys. It was so small-minded and backwards-thinking to see social media accounts like that and have your thought be "Oh that's bad, they are using MLB content outside of our network, shut it down."

Channels like that are free advertising for your product, you morons. You don't control that channel...so what? Do you think Jomboy, Pitching Ninja, et al make people more or less likely to watch baseball?
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It was so mind-numbingly stupid and shortsighted. Those guys love baseball and sure they profit off of it but both of them promote the sport well. And MLB just was so idiotic about it.
 
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zjcvols said:
The thing that I’ve preached on and something that isn’t a problem now but they can’t fix it. They really screwed up on social media. For years baseball wouldn’t allow any of their highlights on a platform that wasn’t theirs. Hell in the last two years they tried to shut down jomboy and pitching ninja, two guys who promote the game extremely well and are entertaining follows. Meanwhile NBA and NFL were out there taking advantage of it, letting people create their own highlight films and getting their product out there to everyone including young people. They can’t fix that IMO...there a whole generation they’ve lost because of that
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Yup. Just no pulse on this generation.

It feels like 2022 is going to really show how out of touch the commissioner’s office and union really are, it’s gonna be ugly.
 
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Florida Stanley said:
Yup. Just no pulse on this generation.

It feels like 2022 is going to really show how out of touch the commissioner’s office and union really are, it’s gonna be ugly.
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It’s gonna be a bloodbath. You have the players who think they have been underpaid, especially in their first few years, for a long time. Then you have the owners who lost millions upon millions due to the pandemic and don’t want to change how contracts are done. Then you have two horrible incompetent leaders on both sides completely out of touch with the fans.
 
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Dudes should get paid sooner no reason for guys like Fried to have their first FA year at 31 and the whole not calling up prospects when they’re clearly ready because it saves a year of arbitration is petty.
 
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zjcvols said:
The thing that I’ve preached on and something that isn’t a problem now but they can’t fix it. They really screwed up on social media. For years baseball wouldn’t allow any of their highlights on a platform that wasn’t theirs. Hell in the last two years they tried to shut down jomboy and pitching ninja, two guys who promote the game extremely well and are entertaining follows. Meanwhile NBA and NFL were out there taking advantage of it, letting people create their own highlight films and getting their product out there to everyone including young people. They can’t fix that IMO...there a whole generation they’ve lost because of that
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True. I have 21 and 19 year sons. They have zero interest in baseball. They both love football and basketball though.
 
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