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I don't think you understand me. I plainly said that hiring someone BECAUSE they are black, white, red..or whatever..is racism. It is the very definition of race based preferential treatment, and it sounds like a lot of people are ok with institutionalizing that raced based preferential treatment...unless it is a white person.

I don't care what has happened in the past...you will not fix the evils of the past by replacing it with the same evil, just in favor of different people. All that will do is cause is extreme resentment and eventually real hatred that will lead to a real violent race war.

It is not the answer to replace white preference with colored preference. I personally do not care if we have an all black staff, as long as it is not done purposefully. We are all God's children and I want racism to die just as much as you or anybody else.
Anytime you create legislation or policy to insure rights for one group, you will inherently infringe on another's......

Simple cause and effect..
 
TFW you realize that there is still football being played somewhere!
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They run a SPREAD and the QB threw the ball to HER teammate what a novel idea !!!! It could be a precursor of things to come on THE HILL.
 
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Great post and while I have witnessed black people being profiled and harassed, it also happens to white people. You are spot on about many people preferring prison/jail to the real world. It gives them structure, steady meals, shelter and camaraderie that they often cannot get on the outside.

I saw many people get released and do something just so they could come back to jail. That is sad and is a local problem more than a federal one.

Private jails and prisons are also morally wrong. It's not a coincidence that they are often found in poor areas. A lot of poor communities have corrupt legal systems where judges, prosecutors and public defenders are all in business together and their primary function is to keep people in the system to make money for the community. Putnam County, FL is a big example of this. The local saying is "Come on vacation, leave on probation."

Responsibility is still on law breakers but the way laws are enforced is suspect. I spent half a year in jail because my 4 year old daughter got out of the house. I was using the bathroom the first time, she figured out how to undo the latch and ran down the dirt road on our cul-de-sac. A neighbor about 800 feet down the road called the cops even though he knew us. I realized she was gone and ran down the dirt road to see cops there...it was only a few minutes but they constantly patrolled the area so response was quick. Was given a warning and told DCF would visit. I installed small alarms on the windows and moved the latch to the top of the door.

A couple weeks later(after working all night) I came home to my wife taking my son to school. I locked and bolted the door and went to my room. My daughter was watching cartoons at the end of my bed and fell asleep. I dozed off and woke up to cops coming in my bedroom with guns drawn asking about my daughter. She had moved a dining room chair, got her old potty chair out of my closet and was just able to reach the latch to go look for her mother. She even showed the police and DCF workers what happened. DCF said I had done nothing wrong and pointed out measures I'd taken. She was found by the same neighbors house.

Cops didnt care. 6 months in jail, $2500 in court costs/fines, a no contact order wit my daughter and 3 years probation. In the end, I'm the adult responsible and just glad she was safe but I got completely screwed by a corrupt legal system that takes advantage of poor people, especially minorities.
I know a lot of people that have not gone to jail for a lot worse. I also know some that went to jail for a whole lot less because of the family they were from. Taught school so I saw a lot. Small, poor white community. And I realize there are large, poor black communities that really have problems with this. I'm not saying there is not a problem with injustice. I'm saying let's fight all injustice.
 
Not to get into the current side discussion, as I've said my peace on the topic many times over, but as a meta-comment on the side discussion...

1) A handful of black candidates have been said to be a part of the current DC search.

2) Now there is a full blown discussion on race and relations.

If all the candidates had been white, would such a discussion be happening?

This isn't a negative comment toward anyone, just a general observation of how many of us perceive what the norm is.
You know, I really really hate that I am now going to start paying attention to the color of the coaches or players on teams now because it has never been something I have ever cared about. I was excited when we hired Ansley and Tee, and it had nothing to do with race. I really hate that I am going to start wondering if every black coach we hire from now on is because we are trying to gain approval. Just hate it.
 
Just as we would have a problem if they were targeting only white candidates.
Exactly. The perception is we are putting more emphasis on race and not ability. Hire the most qualified candidate. Race shouldn't matter.

And honestly, two candidates who happen to be black have turned us down. It's not as if anyone can scream racism in this case.
 
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