Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

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I had the rare privilege of sneaking a peak at DW’s list this morning. I’ll probably disappear after I post this and be locked in the closet that @Atlanta VOL and @HankHill are kept in, but I can not keep this from VN. It must be done.

DC List:
1. Big time DC that laughed when he saw our number on ID.
2. Big time DC that ignored our call when he saw our number on ID.
3. NFL coach that pretended to be interested bc he was bored that day.
4. Popular recruiter that decided more money wasn’t worth career suicide.
5. Sitting head coach at a mid major that knew he had a better team than us.
6. Imaginary coach to make us think we weren’t really screwing around.
7. Position coach from nowhere university. He actually gave us a look, then realized he was crazy and stayed.
8. Another former DC who was demoted that fans revolted against.
9. A homeless man that roams up and down Gay Street.
10. Kevin Steele

I hope I see y’all again one day!

In all seriousness, everybody talks about Steele being a bend but don't break DC, and cite that as how that just won't work with HC JH's system.
Okay, I get that.
But does that mean that Steele can't change things up and call attack, attack, attack (nod to Johnny Majors) type of defense, if that's what he's hired (and told) to do?
 
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I miss this world.
Full stadiums.
Rona was minding her own business.
Good times.

And for the record, I'm 100% good with making Neyland a bounce house.


I just watched the first series. Got to admit I would so love for the Vols to play like that again. Can't imagine how bad we would have looked against S last year.
 
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Hire T-Rob maybe he brings Travis Williams with him to coach LBs. it’s a win win.

Hiring T-Rob is not a win.

Am I the only one who watched USCe defense the last few years?

“Our defense has sucked so let’s go hire the DC from one of the few teams in the league that had a worse defense than us”
 
This should end the GOAT debate not that there should be one anyway.



WHAT A FIERY COMPETITOR!!!
GOAT... That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.

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Wouldn't have minded going after Charlie Strong for DC, but he just took a job reuniting with Urban in Jacksonville.
 
That’s an anecdote. Sounds like your dad was a hard worker and loved his family. That’s a good thing. That said, there’s nothing about that story that has anything to do with systemic racism.


And there it is, "systemic racism". Someone has a valid comment on their life and you negate it with tripe like that. There is no systemic racism.

Did you know there is a canal in New Orleans named the Irish Channel? Do you know why it was named that? When they dug it the disease was so bad that approximately 3000 Irish perished digging it. Know why? Because slaves were too valuable to use. They found it cheaper to use newly arrived Irish and with what they paid them it was cheaper. I was told this with a group of tourists by the National Park Service guide that gave us the walking tour about 23 years ago. Was that systemic racism at work? Which way?

I was born in East Knoxville, out on Strawberry Plains. We had 8 kids in a house with no water, no plumbing and a wood stove for cooking. My mother died when I was five leaving us with only our father who worked at the local lime kiln. One of my brothers had meningitis twice, one of my sisters once. We all went to a one room school in Strawberry Plains. The first time I used a toilet I was six years old and it scared the hell out of when it flushed. (I had never heard one flush before) I thought I had broken it and would be in trouble. When I was six my father remarried and we moved to Burlington in Knoxville and I lived on Hillside Avenue. I grew up there but no one told me I was white trash or poor, so I did not know any better. So I was able to have a somewhat normal life. People like you come along and label everyone and everything and divide us and stoke grievances.

You can EAD with your "systemic racism", and until we tell people like you this you will keep spouting your hateful rhetoric.
 
For those of us on Volnation (me) who have no idea who T-Rob is (obviously not our QB from the mid 80's) ... sell me on this T-Rob.
What makes him a good hire for DC at UT?

Reason 1
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Some don’t like him cause he sucked at USC, but I think Muschamp was controlling everything.
We don’t need a Bama type defense.
 
It does boil down to economics, but who has controlled the economic discussion in this country for 400 years, white people or black people?

This is a great article about the practice of “redlining” Dividing Lines: Redlining in Louisville - Louisville

A process of systemically driving down the property values and loan and banking opportunities of black people in the city of Louisville.

I spent 15+ years in Louisville as a legal aid attorney, a criminal prosecutor, and a trial court judge. There are FACTUAL analyses of the racial populations being processed through our justice system. Black people are arrested, convicted, and sentenced WAY disproportionately to their percentage of the population.

It starts with them getting arrested more. Why? Because there’s more cops in the “black” areas of town than in my affluent, predominantly white neighborhood. Why? Because there’s more crime happening there. Why? Because people there are poor and desperate. Why? It all goes back to economics...

My home value has risen consistently over the years. Many homes in the black area of town are plagued with stagnant or even declining home values. Try to get a loan to start a business in that scenario. What collateral you got? What school are you going to go to? What neighborhood mentors are you going to be exposed to as a child as you formulate either positive or negative life behaviors?

I’m sorry to contribute to this thread derailment, but there absolutely is a history in this country of systemic government, financial, and societal structures set up contrary to the well being and success of black people.

*Poor, struggling white people definitely exist. I grew up in East Tennessee. I know what that looks like. But the existence of one doesn’t nullify the other.

If race was the defining characteristic of a person in our system then would there still be poor white folks? Race is part of the issue but opportunity is the solution. Not government interference and meddling. That is what has caused many of the neighborhoods that you speak of in your post to decline. Government started giving handouts to try to make things better and they just mucked it up. The system caused the problem but it isn't the fault of every white person. Subdividing Americans into groups is the problem.
 
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