Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[BruinVol]

That is kind of the way I feel.

Says the guy that called posters stupid for suggesting Keon Johnson had a nice nba draft future lol

these last few games much be tough on you

 

[Catbone]

I don't understand the Kacy Rodgers love. He is a very good DL coach, but as a DC in the NFL his defense allowed:

2015: 19.6 PPG (9th)
2016: 25.6 PPG (28th)
2017: 23.9 PPG (22nd)
2018: 27.6 PPG (29th)

Now getting to be a DC in the NFL is a hell of an accomplishment, but he hasn't recruited since 2002 when he was the DL coach at Arkansas. He may be great here, but I don't see how you can be so optimistic about hiring a 51-year-old position coach who failed as an NFL DC. The college game is obviously very different from the NFL, but this feels like a stretch. He played way before I was born, but if we continue to suck (which seems likely), I would like to avoid disliking another former Vol while doing it.

Bingo... Give me a new energetic up and comer

 

[JohnnyD1024]

 

[VOLSONLY]

That is her. Got a church text also. I go to Highland

Man I hate to hear that, at one time she was married to my 1st cousin. I go to Orange Hill

 

[Jimmy Football]

The Simulation was off by a day. It’s getting sloppy.

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

I was at the Georgia game when Grant dropped 30. We led by 11 or 12 at one point in the second half and ended up losing a close one. JJ Frazier went off on us in the second half

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Well if it's all announced at once my best guess

DC/DL - Kacy Rodgers
co-DC/ILBs - Kevin Steele
OLBs - Kevin Simon
DB - Willie Martinez OR VFL?

Check the post date...on this old prediction. Wonder if I get any of these right?

 

[seaofORANGE22]

I don't understand the Kacy Rodgers love. He is a very good DL coach, but as a DC in the NFL his defense allowed:

2015: 19.6 PPG (9th)
2016: 25.6 PPG (28th)
2017: 23.9 PPG (22nd)
2018: 27.6 PPG (29th)

Now getting to be a DC in the NFL is a hell of an accomplishment, but he hasn't recruited since 2002 when he was the DL coach at Arkansas. He may be great here, but I don't see how you can be so optimistic about hiring a 51-year-old position coach who failed as an NFL DC. The college game is obviously very different from the NFL, but this feels like a stretch. He played way before I was born, but if we continue to suck (which seems likely), I would like to avoid disliking another former Vol while doing it.

I think these are valid concerns. I will say I don't think those Jets teams could score points and they turned the ball over a ton and left the defense in bad spots regularly. When the offense gave them a chance the defense was pretty good. They just were bad bad teams that honestly just got worse after Bowles left.

I have no clue what Kacy would do here. But I don't think we would suck or be out of position all the time anymore. I would hope he could get us to playing fundamentally sound defense again and flying to the ball. I would guess he's capable of at least that.

 

[volswillrise12]

I’m trying to figure out why Kacy Rodgers is exciting.

 

[Sleegro]

I think these are valid concerns. I will say I don't think those Jets teams could score points and they turned the ball over a ton and left the defense in bad spots regularly. When the offense gave them a chance the defense was pretty good. They just were bad bad teams that honestly just got worse after Bowles left.

I have no clue what Kacy would do here. But I don't think we would suck or be out of position all the time anymore. I would hope he could get us to playing fundamentally sound defense again and flying to the ball. I would guess he's capable of at least that.

Similar to Bowles defense last year compared to this year. Less negative plays by the offense was the biggest change.

Edit: Gave up the same yards per play both seasons, but almost 100 less points because they weren't starting in scoring position as much. Faced 9 redzone attempts.

 

[BogeyVol]

I’m trying to figure out why Kacy Rodgers is exciting. I know he played here but just speaking as a Jet fan he had a lot of young talent on the defense and did nothing with it.

Why is Washington exciting? Very few knew of him until a couple of days ago and now everybody's on edge to see if we "got him"... At this point there are serious pros and serious cons to everybody that is a real option. CJH going to have to see who he feels comfortable with from the options that are willing to be options.

 

[VFL10]

I’m trying to figure out why Kacy Rodgers is exciting.

He would bring instant credibility and would be a great start to building a dominant D-Line with himself and Rodney Gardner

 

[ShreveportVol]

The Keon dunk sent me down a rabbit hole last night and I ended up watching malachi wideman bball highlights. Good. God.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I don't understand the Kacy Rodgers love. He is a very good DL coach, but as a DC in the NFL his defense allowed:

2015: 19.6 PPG (9th)
2016: 25.6 PPG (28th)
2017: 23.9 PPG (22nd)
2018: 27.6 PPG (29th)

Now getting to be a DC in the NFL is a hell of an accomplishment, but he hasn't recruited since 2002 when he was the DL coach at Arkansas. He may be great here, but I don't see how you can be so optimistic about hiring a 51-year-old position coach who failed as an NFL DC. The college game is obviously very different from the NFL, but this feels like a stretch. He played way before I was born, but if we continue to suck (which seems likely), I would like to avoid disliking another former Vol while doing it.

Doesn't tell the full story.

Defensive Drives ending in scoring by % (lower is better)
2015: 28.4% (5th)
2016: 37.7% (20th)
2017: 33.3% (15th)
2018: 39.1% (24th)

Also finished top 12 every single season he was the DC in total yards given up, their terrible offense gave up a lot of those PPG and put them in less favorable positions.

 

[Glitch]

Just got a phone call




























My car warranty is about to expire

 

[LoudOrange]

Doesn't tell the full story.

Defensive Drives ending in scoring by % (lower is better)
2015: 28.4% (5th)
2016: 37.7% (20th)
2017: 33.3% (15th)
2018: 39.1% (24th)

Also finished top 12 every single season he was the DC in total yards given up, their terrible offense gave up a lot of those PPG and put them in less favorable positions.

Thanks for the research.

 

[UTSuave’]

The Keon dunk sent me down a rabbit hole last night and I ended up watching malachi wideman bball highlights. Good. God.

Speaking of!..I thought wideman and Beckwith were going to be playing

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Just got a phone call




























My car warranty is about to expire

Thanks for taking the time to listen. Really ups my #’s every time someone picks up.

 

[Z06VolinWV]

Checking in from ski slopes, 8” of fresh snow! We har’d a DC yet? Too many pages behind.

 

[LaagerVol]

Man I hate to hear that, at one time she was married to my 1st cousin. I go to Orange Hill

BB is such a good dude. We prob know each other.

 

[Jackcrevol]

We have got to **** or get off the pot with a DC.

 

[KB5252]

I wasn't super excited about Heupel but still like the hire a lot more than if it had been Elliott or Franklin. E didn't have any HC experience, which is especially important with this hire. Plus he could have been another Pruitt, success with good players already in place. And Franklin is just an ass. Hiring him would have been asking for trouble down the road IMO.

Agreed, I don't like Franklin, I think JH and Elliot are similar hires. Elliott would have recruited better IMO but I believe JH has the better offensive mind and has experience running a program. We could have done much worse IMO.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Checking in from ski slopes, 8” of fresh snow! We har’d a DC yet? Too many pages behind.

Yeah, #insider.

 

[Jackcrevol]

still cant multi quote

 

[Vols4us]

Similar to Bowles defense last year compared to this year. Less negative plays by the offense was the biggest change.

Exactly. Plus an additional year in Bowles’ system.

We just saw our top thirty D go to top sixty+. How did it happen? Primarily because the O sucked badly. Insert Jets name for the same scenario in multiple years with a FO that threw up on itself getting players for the roster.