Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[VolInDayton]

That's why they vacation and retire elsewhere.

Cheap cost of living compared to employment opportunities and proximity to everywhere is why people live in Ohio. I'm going to get out soon.

 

[volinbama256]

No statement

Well then there's still a chance... there was too much smoke and folks reporting things yesterday to just have it die today without any final actions/statements...

 

[Nashvegas31]

Yeah, it's very interesting.

I think they are trying to find a DC to cover up Heupel's weaknesses: the offense can be hit or miss, especially at this level, so you need a defensive coordinator that can plan for being on the field a long time. We know there is no real plan for that, you're just kinda screwed, but maybe it can be mitigated some.

And it appears we are targeting someone young who can recruit really well.

Edit: another thing to think about is that we just hired a mid major HC. Might want someone with steady SEC or P5 experience.

Imo you can recruit more depth at TN than Group of 5 that can allow success when paired with uptempo offense. The issue is how long will it take to have appropriate depth with pending sanctions. It may be why he is focused on recruiting more than play calling experience at least in the case of Washington.

As i type this I’m thinking this may be why the 3-3-5 seems to be the best pairing for ultra fast tempo offense. It is much easier to recruit depth in the back 7 that can play on field longer and not have the type of drop off in talent or effectiveness when tired than it is to load up on enough top end DL. Everyone is battling for the top DL but you can find a lot of steals at Lb and DB that get lost in the elite recruiting circles.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

It is sort of odd that no one else knows about Blake Baker but jimmy and also that Washington hasn’t announced he was staying.... loves Columbus....blah blah blah

Yeah well I love UT but if someone gave me a position upgrade, tripled my salary and gave me incentives.... sorry Tennessee I’m out.

 

[vol494]

That's why they vacation and retire elsewhere.

I wished they’d stay off Norris lake! Go to Cumberland. FIFOs they are.

 

[Ace]

Just go get Dale Jones.

No

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

I wish I had your confidence. Me, I have girded my loins. That jaw-rattling kick to the man fruit is almost inevitable at this point.

Lol I mean does it really hurt me either way? Nay.... so I’ll just stay at 90 and be wrong if I’m wrong

 

[Vols4us]

Cheap cost of living compared to employment opportunities and proximity to everywhere is why people live in Ohio. I'm going to get out soon.

I grew up there. Not far from you if you are in the Dayton area. Left for college and never looked back. Ended up returning to my family's roots in East TN.

 

[LoudOrange]

I wished they’d stay off Norris lake! Go to Cumberland. FIFOs they are.

Too late now. They took over Cumberland before Norris.

 

[Weezer]

Saw an interesting point on why Kacy Rodgers might not want to jump from the NFL. Seems he's within a few years of having his time in for drawing benefits after he retires.

 

[Shadowboxer]

You dummies fell for another fake insider. Just stop.

There are zero insiders anymore. We are now mushrooms.

 

[orangesoda]

Hopefully he makes a run at Tulsa DC. We would fall right into a home run. Might as well just bring Randy Shannon before you bring the guy that Miami just took play calling duties from.

Must be some bad blood or Gillespie is not interested.

 

[rikberry31]

Ohio is a S*** hole state.

Particularly Columbus, it is a dump.

 

[volinbama256]

@MetalVolunteer -- there still a chance Washington could still accept the job today?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Yeah, it's very interesting.

I think they are trying to find a DC to cover up Heupel's weaknesses: the offense can be hit or miss, especially at this level, so you need a defensive coordinator that can plan for being on the field a long time. We know there is no real plan for that, you're just kinda screwed, but maybe it can be mitigated some.

And it appears we are targeting someone young who can recruit really well.

Edit: another thing to think about is that we just hired a mid major HC. Might want someone with steady SEC or P5 experience.

This wasn't another opportunity for you to take another passive-aggressive shot at Heupels offense...which is weird as hell to me anyway.

I know and appreciate the fact that they went after some P-5 experience first..but those guys are all cowards that would rather stay in their cozy little cocoon for now...so find a hungry guy at a G-5 or lower school that has had to defend a lot of different type offenses, and has done it relatively well.

 

[GoBigOrange86]

I think Larry Lacewell is available.

 

[Glitch]

@JimmyHyams
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I am sitting in a doctor waiting room and friggin snort laughed at this. So thank you for that.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

It's not just Vol fans. But the constant over reaction to every tiny thing is exhausting. I mean at halftime of every basketball game this place demands the best coach we've had in years be fired and replaced in the second half. Sometimes it's so bad i go look up the score and we're only winning by a little. Some people feel like every detail needs a reaction and every problem needs someone to blame. Doesn't just apply to Vols, or even just sports.

Doesn’t help that we’ve had how many coaching searches and staff overhauls in how short of a period of time.....

 

[drvenner]

I can remember when I lost hope. Early December 2012. Seems like yesterday.

Tennessee hires Bearcats' Jones as new coach

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I honestly had no idea who he was. Just like with Dooley. You would think I would have learned the first time. I didn't.

 

[johnfnkelly]

Recruiting experience is what Washington has over Mayo. If we are looking for a young leader to bring a winning culture to the defense, Mayo would be a good fit. Playing/Coaching for the Patriots and being a high draft pick from Tennessee makes me think he would be able to recruit well.

I'm convinced Mayo would be the #1 rated recruiter on 247 every cycle if he was a college coordinator.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

So if Blake Baker is truly out of left field, ya have to wonder who "leaked" it to Jimmy and was it intentionally done as a smokescreen to draw less attention from Washington as we finalize that deal (or another candidate under the radar)?

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

@MetalVolunteer -- there still a chance Washington could still accept the job today?

What if he really did accept the job and it’s just been in contract writing and DW has kept it air tight?

 

[BruinVol]

I think Larry Lacewell is available.

Pass

Let’s get Doug mathews

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Yeah well I love UT but if someone gave me a position upgrade, tripled my salary and gave me incentives.... sorry Tennessee I’m out.

Seems like not even massive raises can get good coaches here. Oh we always hire on the cheap and look where it got us. Yeah well we are opening up the checkbook and people are still saying nope.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Hopefully he makes a run at Tulsa DC. We would fall right into a home run. Might as well just bring Randy Shannon before you bring the guy that Miami just took play calling duties from.

I wondered last night if there might be some bad blood between Heupel and Gillespie from their UCF -Tulsa battles

I'm not saying there is, I am just wondering why he wouldn't at least talk to the guy. I don't think he would turn down the Tennessee DC job.