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drvenner said:
I am unphased.
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Smokey'sHandler said:
I could definitely get this point. Our program is in a very tough spot right now and it is going to be a pretty tough challenge. But if he comes in and is part of a solid turnaround his stock for not just DC but HC will be through the roof. So then here’s the options:

1. Stick around at OSU be in a comfy spot at a top 5 program. Possibly get a DC position at a “better” school/situation next year then depending how it turns out be an HC candidate in 3+ years. If this doesn’t turn out he is at least still Co-DC at OSU.

2. Take the UT job. Become a DC in what is seen as a very tough situation. Be a part of a turnaround in a challenging situation and be a high-profile HC candidate in 3 years. If it doesn’t turn out maybe you return to OSU start running it back.

UT is a high risk high reward situation but if he/JH pull it out he will have Charlie Strong/Kirby Smart type demand on the HC market.
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He won't get a better deal. Any program better than Tennessee right now would be paying a mill at most for him, contract won't be as loaded and it won't be SEC. SEC recycles too much and most demand a sitting DC. Him not calling plays will drive his price and program quality down on one's in "better" situations. Tennessee is taking a risk on him too. Tennessees situation calls for the risk. LSUs, Bama, Florida, Tamu, Georgia, etc does not. He'd take a bigger risk turning it down than taking it imo.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I don't mean to be obtuse, but what makes you believe that last part?
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Lack of leaks and time frame. The only reason it's been over a week would be because CJH isn't rushing the hire.

Sure we can speculate who we think would or wouldn't want the job, but the truth of the matter is if they were willing to just hire someone throwing around a million + would land them a guy (if they were willing to make it -any- guy that said yes). But at this point it appears he's fully vetted 3 candidates and the first 2 didn't seem interested (both sitting DCs) so Washington appears to be the first candidate in the week+ process that actual paperwork got drawn up for.

I mean this is all me piecing together things, I could be completely wrong.
 
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We’re getting turned down by coaches from 2 of the CFP teams. We’re not getting turned down by position coaches from Purdue or NC State, we’re swinging big because our AD can see where these guys will be in the future. We’re just not in a desirable position right now given all of the bs that Pruitt and Co left behind, coupled with the past decade of garbage that has gone on.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Lack of leaks and time frame. The only reason it's been over a week would be because CJH isn't rushing the hire.

Sure we can speculate who we think would or wouldn't want the job, but the truth of the matter is if they were willing to just hire someone throwing around a million + would land them a guy (if they were willing to make it -any- guy that said yes). But at this point it appears he's fully vetted 3 candidates and the first 2 didn't seem interested (both sitting DCs) so Washington appears to be the first candidate in the week+ process that actual paperwork got drawn up for.

I mean this is all me piecing together things, I could be completely wrong.
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I think you are correct, but I happen to believe and have heard that both Brown and Orlando were offered the job and turned it down.

So when you say timeframe is a positive sign, I have to disagree. I think it has taken so long because after the initial interview process we were turned down twice, then we did another round of interviews and are in the process of being turned down by a third candidate.

And I don't say this as a shot against Heupel. This job is what it is and the instability around the program is hampering his ability to form a staff.
 
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UTMVol76 said:
I think some of you get off on bad news.
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I think a lot of people live miserable lives and it's not really hard to figure out who they are in here. I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Prozac is your friend----visit your doctor and improve your outlook on things
Live long and prosper :cool::cool::cool:
 
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Who are some candidates that CJH likes i seen Joseph Gillespie at Tulsa Tyson summers chad walker or even go back to brown and Orlando offer more to them clinkscale they are more options
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
There isn't a better program coming after Al Washington next year. There may be a program in a better place, but that should be negated by the fact you're getting a shot in the SEC to be one of the top 10 highest paid DCs in the country to build your own brand from the ground up. Cause one thing he has here is a HC that will allow him to do that.
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Was going to say this same thing!
 
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