Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[CoachClick]

He has been right for the last 3/4 weeks.

Yeah he's been the most "accurate" person during this search on VN.

 

[LA Vol]

I’m still trying to figure out the logic of whacking the hornet’s nest with our own stick. Everybody else that’s been doing the same thing we have is going to be trying to burn documents faster than the American embassy in Tehran so they don’t face the same consequences.

No need to hide evidence. Few schools find it productive to dig, dig, dig to find more evidence of more violations to burn more people and put the program in a deeper hole than where it all started. Most schools take the middle ground-- investigate the initial allegations internally, self-report, self-impose and go about their business while the case is queued for years until the NCAA gets around to reviewing it without evidence they have no resources or inclination to find.

 

[jakez4ut]

Money alone isn't going to buy our way out of this. UT is a hornet's nest, admin just whacked it with a big stick, the NCAA will take another swing and some coaches don't want to get caught up in the swarm. Trying to buy guys who really don't want to be at UT likely leads to more instability.

Right now, UT has incompatible goals. Moving forward means reconciling that.

well said.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Yeah he's been the most "accurate" person during this search on VN.

Sarcasm or serious ?

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Someone on here has to know a current player. We just need to know when the team meeting is scheduled. That's all that matters at this point.

I mean, we’re not like best friends or anything but Morven Joseph and I follow each other on Twitter.

Does that count?

 

[CoachClick]

Sarcasm or serious ?

Serious...it's why I quote him in this thread...from the Coachery thread.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I’m feeling feisty today.

Anyone up for a knife fight in the alley?

Me and Nick later

 

[johnfnkelly]

Chadwell is probably the only non P5 coach i'd consider buying into.

 

[jakez4ut]

You can’t interview someone in Oxford. They would find out.

 

[HankHill]

I would argue this is just about the perfect time to hire someone like Chadwell. He's going to have a built-in excuse the first couple of years if things don't get going right away.

"Well all the good players transferred." "Pruitt wasn't developing any of these guys." "There are scholarship reductions, he can't compete right now." "COVID really stunted spring practice." "We've got a two year post-season ban how could he get his guys to play hard when there's nothing to play for?"

The list goes on and on and on.

I think you can apply Chadwell, Elliot, or really anyone here. Hopefully they look at it as extended job security.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Let the record show that I've long supported Chadwell

Mostly same. My biggest gripe with Chadwell is he isn’t Lane Kiffin.

If it comes to it, I’ll work on trying to overlook that.

 

[jakez4ut]

Are Henry and Wanya for sure gone?

Wanya is, i think Henry is still TBD?

 

[Rizzo924]

No need to hide evidence. Few schools find it productive to dig, dig, dig to find more evidence of more violations to burn more people and put the program in a deeper hole than where it all started. Most schools take the middle ground-- investigate the initial allegations internally, self-report, self-impose and go about their business while the case is queued for years until the NCAA gets around to reviewing it without evidence they have no resources or inclination to find.

Do you think they could've gotten Fulmer out without doing what they did?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I mean it does look really bad to leave a day before of day of NSD. Also looks bad to leave day after lol. Kind of pick your poison. I think some prefer to leave after as at least your school can hold on to players. What does help is not as many kids even still out there with early signing period

significantly worse to leave after, IMO. Plus with early signing day, most of the classes are already locked in anyways these days.

 

[utkevdawg1]

Yeah he's been the most "accurate" person during this search on VN.

And he never claimed to be an insider. Says he has a friend who is connected to the process and then nags his friend. He's been pretty forthcoming that he is relaying what he finds out but it is often incomplete and there is more.he doesn't know.
I actually trust them and their intentions.

 

[VolzMan53]

After 12 years and 4-coaching-search
-cycles later, UT has finally found a way to make planes untraceable. Coming soon to a runway near you.

That has Josh Dobbs written all over it !

 

[Kingston Vol]

I think you can apply Chadwell, Elliot, or really anyone here. Hopefully they look at it as extended job security.

I think people are going to be pretty stunned by the contract if we hire Chadwell or Elliott or anyone on that level.

We're going to have to pay more than they're worth and make the contract really favorable.

 

[Power T-Rev]

AP^

GTFO out of here with that ish, AP.

 

[Smokeyshowl66]

That has Josh Dobbs written all over it !

Nah. If it were rockets, yes. But not planes. LOL

 

[LA Vol]

Do you think they could've gotten Fulmer out without doing what they did?

Of course.

 

[Squoshua17]

significantly worse to leave after, IMO. Plus with early signing day, most of the classes are already locked in anyways these days.

Agreed. And why is signing day JUST NOW being mentioned?

 

[HankHill]

I think people are going to be pretty stunned by the contract if we hire Chadwell or Elliott or anyone on that level.

We're going to have to pay more than they're worth and make the contract really favorable.

We’re going to have to overpay no matter who we hire. The question is do you feel Better about paying say 5 mil for a guy that should cost 3... or 9 million for a guy that should cost 7. I really don’t care what the money or contract looks like at this point. Just ready to see what direction we’re going.

 

[windrider]

i think you mis read my post then...lol....or you're just seeing what you want to see....lol.....

Yes, just edited my post. Agree with what you said. Thanks.

 

[VolInNorthCack]

Wanya is, i think Henry is still TBD?

I thought Wanya was denied at OU due to grades or assignments he hadn't completed or something...

 

[PA Vol]

Cristobal to the Hill?

I dig it. Dude is a heck of a recruiter and would load his staff with guys that are familiar with coaching and recruiting in the southeast.