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snowvols said:
Its only public perception on this board. No one in the rest of the country thinks Franklin covered up anything. If it was the perception of the rest of the country it would have been a big story when he was hired at Penn St, the school with the biggest scandal in CFB history.
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Exactly, everyone here is still salty about him beating us with Vandy and talking trash about it.
 
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For the Kiffin, Freeze or Franklin crowd. Simple question on each:

Kiffin - he left us once, what makes us think he won't do it again?
Freeze - he embarrassed one university with rules (& ethics) violations, what makes us think he learned his lesson?
Franklin - has he learned anything from what happened at Vanderbilt with the rape investigations?

Reputational risk matters - and ours isn't exactly sterling at the moment.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
That contradicts the info out this morning that two vetted candidates will not be interviewed and two that have been named have not even been contacted at all.
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I would trust Low over any random quotes from somewhere else. And he was just saying what coaches he thinks we are talking to and who would be a fit at UT.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
This is the kind of garbage PoS human beings this scumbag fills his program with..that is my point
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Those players involved are POS and they're serving time in prison but Franklin was cleared by the DA and state so I'm not sure it's fair to hold it against him. He had his time in court

The players were dismissed from the football team on June 29, 2013, and banned from campus during the six-week investigation that followed.[12] On August 9, 2013, they were arrested and indicted for aggravated rape and sexual battery.[13][12] All four men were charged with five counts of aggravated rape and two counts of aggravated sexual battery.
In July 2016, after being convicted by a Davidson County Criminal Court jury, Batey, 22 years old, received a 15-year prison sentence, the minimum allowed by law for his crimes (while both the victim and prosecutors had asked the judge for the maximum sentence possible of 25 years to be meted out); after he gets out he will be required to be listed on the sex-offender registry for the rest of his life.[2][14][9][15] He is serving his time in Riverbend Maximum Security Institution.[16]
In November 2016, after being convicted Vanderburg was sentenced to 17 years in prison; after he gets out he will be required to be listed on the sex-offender registry for the rest of his life.[17] He is serving his time in Morgan County Correctional Complex.[16]
In August 2017, after being convicted Banks received a 15-year sentence; after he gets out he will be required to be listed on the sex-offender registry for the rest of his life.[18] He is serving his time in Turney Center Industrial Complex.[16]
In March 2018, after testifying against his three co-defendants and pleading guilty to facilitation of aggravated rape, McKenzie, 23 years old, accepted a plea deal which included 10 years' probation and a lifetime registration as a sex offender, and became the only of the four defendants to not receive any jail time.[6][19][20] He was not seen touching the victim after he helped his teammates carry her into the dorm room.[21][6]
A fifth player, Chris Boyd, pleaded guilty in September 2013 to being an accessory after the fact by encouraging his teammates to keep quiet and destroy evidence of the rape, and was dismissed from the team but not the university for his role in helping cover up the rape.[22][23][24] He testified against Vandenberg and Batey as part of a plea deal, and was sentenced to a year of unsupervised probation.[25]
Appeals by Batey, Vanderburg, and Banks to the Tennessee Court of Criminal Appeals in efforts to have their convictions overturned were unsuccessful in 2019.[19] In 2020, the Tennessee Supreme Court declined to reconsider Vandenburg's appeal of his conviction.[
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
This is the kind of garbage PoS human beings this scumbag fills his program with..that is my point
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I don’t want Franklin either but he can’t judge what is inside a person..... I use to work with a guy that I thought was the nicest guy ever until the FBI raised his home due to his addiction to kiddie porn.
 
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#114,790
I've spent nearly a decade basically enjoying the great conversations in here. Fun banter. Great GIFs. Tons of mic drops and folks who feel like friends even though we've never met. Most of you seem like fantastic people.

But, I've never wanted a conversation to stop more. Ya'll have got to stop with this former Vandy coach stuff. That guy is the worst. In every possible way.

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Volsfaninva917 said:
Those players involved are POS and they're serving time in prison but Franklin was cleared by the DA and state so I'm not sure it's fair to hold it against him. He had his time in court

The players were dismissed from the football team on June 29, 2013, and banned from campus during the six-week investigation that followed.[12] On August 9, 2013, they were arrested and indicted for aggravated rape and sexual battery.[13][12] All four men were charged with five counts of aggravated rape and two counts of aggravated sexual battery.
In July 2016, after being convicted by a Davidson County Criminal Court jury, Batey, 22 years old, received a 15-year prison sentence, the minimum allowed by law for his crimes (while both the victim and prosecutors had asked the judge for the maximum sentence possible of 25 years to be meted out); after he gets out he will be required to be listed on the sex-offender registry for the rest of his life.[2][14][9][15] He is serving his time in Riverbend Maximum Security Institution.[16]
In November 2016, after being convicted Vanderburg was sentenced to 17 years in prison; after he gets out he will be required to be listed on the sex-offender registry for the rest of his life.[17] He is serving his time in Morgan County Correctional Complex.[16]
In August 2017, after being convicted Banks received a 15-year sentence; after he gets out he will be required to be listed on the sex-offender registry for the rest of his life.[18] He is serving his time in Turney Center Industrial Complex.[16]
In March 2018, after testifying against his three co-defendants and pleading guilty to facilitation of aggravated rape, McKenzie, 23 years old, accepted a plea deal which included 10 years' probation and a lifetime registration as a sex offender, and became the only of the four defendants to not receive any jail time.[6][19][20] He was not seen touching the victim after he helped his teammates carry her into the dorm room.[21][6]
A fifth player, Chris Boyd, pleaded guilty in September 2013 to being an accessory after the fact by encouraging his teammates to keep quiet and destroy evidence of the rape, and was dismissed from the team but not the university for his role in helping cover up the rape.[22][23][24] He testified against Vandenberg and Batey as part of a plea deal, and was sentenced to a year of unsupervised probation.[25]
Appeals by Batey, Vanderburg, and Banks to the Tennessee Court of Criminal Appeals in efforts to have their convictions overturned were unsuccessful in 2019.[19] In 2020, the Tennessee Supreme Court declined to reconsider Vandenburg's appeal of his conviction.[
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Dont upset people by bringing facts in here
 
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Smokeyshowl66 said:
Rhule has complete control on game day roster decisions. Collaborates with GM on everything else.
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I'm pretty ignorant interms or what a NFL GM does because I'm a Bengals fan LOL. Doesn't all HC have complete control of game day roster decisions? Also collaborating with a GM means he can give input but lost decision making power for players that he wants.
 
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