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Sounds like something an old person would say.
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That wasn't a witch hunt and you know it...I know why you defend the guy, and it is typical of people like you...disgusting.
I didn’t say it was a witch hunt. Plus what are you talking about?

I asked where it was proven he did this stuff, and you said that doesn’t matter because you “believe” he did it
 
Look horrible to who? The media? Do you really care?

No, I don't care about the media. But James Franklin isn't some amazing, unmissable hire. He went 4-5 at Penn State this year and struggles to beat the big dawgs in his conference with a much easier schedule. He's a good coach, don't get me wrong, but I don't think his baggage is worth the risk.

I'd rather go Fleck or Elliot, and I have been vocally outspoken about how I don't really want either of them. They'd both be a better and safer choice than James Franklin.
 
It doesn't matter if Franklin was "technically" cleared of any wrong doing in the Vandy scandal, the public perception is he had a hand in the matter, which is tougher to sell than just being like "Look at this report that says they can't find anything on him." Especially after we torpedoed Schiano for his part in the Penn State child abuse scandal when there "technically" wasn't any evidence there either.

If we hire Franklin after giving the middle finger to Schiano, it would look horrible. We would be best served to steer clear of anyone from Penn State/Vandy. Plenty of other great coaches out there.
You're right, we would be best served to get campbell or someone of that type over Franklin. We agree on that. But that doesn't mean DW doesn't see it differently. you don't have to convince me that Franklin is shady i think everyone agrees on that on this forum. But our opinions don't mean ish to our new AD and he's gonna hire whoever he thinks will win and build us back. Is that Franklin? Looks like it is a possibility.
 
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Franklin consistently has Penn State playing better defense than their offense. Not really an offensive minded coach it seems. Over the past 3 or 4 years his total offense is in the 40s and total defense in the 20s-30s.
 
It doesn't matter if Franklin was "technically" cleared of any wrong doing in the Vandy scandal, the public perception is he had a hand in the matter, which is tougher to sell than just being like "Look at this report that says they can't find anything on him." Especially after we torpedoed Schiano for his part in the Penn State child abuse scandal when there "technically" wasn't any evidence there either.

If we hire Franklin after giving the middle finger to Schiano, it would look horrible. We would be best served to steer clear of anyone from Penn State/Vandy. Plenty of other great coaches out there.
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No, I don't care about the media. But James Franklin isn't some amazing, unmissable hire. He went 4-5 at Penn State this year and struggles to beat the big dawgs in his conference with a much easier schedule. He's a good coach, don't get me wrong, but I don't think his baggage is worth the risk.

I'd rather go Fleck or Elliot, and I have been vocally outspoken about how I don't really want either of them. They'd both be a better and safer choice than James Franklin.
So no real answer to who it would look horrible to?
 
I would love a Franklin hire. He's a great coach that has really elevated both programs he has been at. Plus I have complete faith in Danny White's ability to vet a candidate, so I trust his evaluation of the past allegations against Franklin
Yeah...he really "elevated" the Vandy program..
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I know this is not a whale name, but wouldn't Billy Napier be a pretty damn good hire and they've made sure to keep his name out of the mix in the media when early on you would think that would be a big push?

From Cookeville, TN.
Played at Furman close by
QB and offensive minded
Recruits the South
Coached at Clemson and Alabama as assistant
Has taken Louisiana to 3 straight division championships
Beat Iowa St this year
Has a low salary

Not saying he is the whale if that truly happens but I could see him having been a top candidate from the start and all this other stuff being a diversion.

Media would certainly say it was a good hire
 
It doesn't matter if Franklin was "technically" cleared of any wrong doing in the Vandy scandal, the public perception is he had a hand in the matter, which is tougher to sell than just being like "Look at this report that says they can't find anything on him." Especially after we torpedoed Schiano for his part in the Penn State child abuse scandal when there "technically" wasn't any evidence there either.

If we hire Franklin after giving the middle finger to Schiano, it would look horrible. We would be best served to steer clear of anyone from Penn State/Vandy. Plenty of other great coaches out there.
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