Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[White Bread]

Who developed Deshaun Watson?

Chad Morris

 

[yabo]

To me everything is in tiers. If you can’t get a guy in the tier above then you move to the next.

Tier 1 -
Kiffin, Campbell, Fickell, Peterson, Fleck, Whittingham

Tier 2 -
Herman, Freeze (only due to perceived baggage), Chadwell, Napier, Elliot

Tier 3 -
Steele

 

[BigSteve09]

Wasn't it SF that said we are swinging for a big time candidate with HC experience? And now we are worried about hiring an OC because SF put his name in an update?

 

[HankHill]

Somebody give me a modern example of a coordinator who walked into a similar situation as us and brought them back into a national contender.

give me an example of anyone who has walked into a similar situation and brought any program back to a national contender....

 

[johnfnkelly]

Who developed Deshaun Watson?

Gonna go with the same guy who made Boyd a star.

Dabo Swinney.

 

[Orange Studs]

On a lighter note BB game tonight hope they show up to this one. lol

 

[Sleegro]

Bass you'll be full ron swanson 15-0 within a week

XV-Nulla

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Who developed Deshaun Watson?

Who developed those 5 star Bama DB’s?

 

[yabo]

This is a good point tho. If we hired joe Brady this place would go wild. They are virtually the same person.

Brady took a QB that was compared with JG the same season and turned him into a heisman trophy winner and the best offense maybe ever in college football. Tony Elliot (while good) had Deshaun Watson and TL....

 

[SCvol333]

Tony Elliott is as good a OC as Pruitt is a DC. Really really like him as an OC

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Gonna go with the same guy who made Boyd a star.

Dabo Swinney.

Dabo is a cheerleader, his assistants have made him

 

[butchna]

give me an example of anyone who has walked into a similar situation and brought any program back to a national contender....

Bill O’Brien

 

[Batman1948]

There are proven head coaches and proven Offensive coordinators. Elliot is a proven OC. Maybe our new coach can persuade him to come as our OC.

In my opinion, Kiffin is not a good head coach. He's a great OC but his teams have terrible defenses. A great coach should not have terrible defenses. Someday, he may wake up and hire someone to run the defensive side of the ball but until he does that, he's just a great OC that happens to be the head man.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Who developed those 5 star Bama DB’s?

Saban

 

[TrippieRedd]

Yo @Bassmaster_Vol heard that we are hiring Farmer Fran!!! Holy chit

 

[HankHill]

They are not the same person and you know it. Your criteria for making that statement is why it’s hard to take anything you say seriously.

How are they different. Brady has done nothing outside of having a great year at LsU with literally the best offensive football cast ever assembled in college football. Elliots resume and background is far more impressive than Brady’s and people would love Joe Brady. Maybe it’s a color issue???,

 

[itsme]

What do you mean?

Campbell
Fleck
Fitzgerald
Elliot
Napier
Fickell
Leipold
Chadwell

Would all do fantastic here.

Campbell 95% success rate great culture builder may lose to NFL in the future but that means he’s done big, big things here
Fleck 85% culture builder kind of Butchy with the slogans so he may would have to adjust that some but high energy guy that would get people excited it think.
Fitzgerald 90% culture builder really love this guy and think he would do great things here.
Elliot 50% we don’t know anything about him as a leader of a team on his own. We’ve seen great coordinators do great but some massively fail.
Napier 70% built Louisiana into a consistent 10 win team
Fickell 90% see Campbell’s description lower because he did it in a lower conference. I do think he would be highly successful here though.
Leipold 70% see Napier’s description
Chadwell 65% I think he would be ok but you never know until you step into the deep waters. They beat BYU so there’s that but he would face the cream of the crop coaches and athletes every weekend.

 

[Ten_Titans]

give me an example of anyone who has walked into a similar situation and brought any program back to a national contender....

Ed O, Mullen, Urban Meyer multiple times, Dabo, Saban, etc etc etc

 

[jakez4ut]

Who developed those 5 star Bama DB’s?

Saban.














Couldn't resist

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Tony Elliott is as good a OC as Pruitt is a DC. Really really like him as an OC

Except, Elliott doesn't seem to have the ego or ******* personality that Pruitt has.

 

[McGeesPub]

I’m probably on a fair number of ignore lists here because of my posts about Jones and Pruitt fairly on in their tenures. Pruitt especially I felt was a fraud and firing him after his first game wouldn’t have been soon enough for me. That said, while Elliott would by no means be my first choice, I think he would have a better chance of success than our last three hires.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

give me an example of anyone who has walked into a similar situation and brought any program back to a national contender....

Urban Meyer. Nick Saban. James Franklin

 

[volfan1631]

They only let candidate's names out that they want out. Chris Low is who to keep an eye on for news about a coach

 

[HankHill]

Saban

Also bamas corners usually suck lol. Outside of marlon Humphrey i can’t think of the last bama corner that has shown to be legit.

 

[johnfnkelly]

give me an example of anyone who has walked into a similar situation and brought any program back to a national contender....

Not as severe situations but Jimbo seems to be doing alright. Mullen too. Proven HC’s tend to turn things around at a much faster and more efficient rate.