Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[05_never_again]

I don't think the media game is about either of those things anymore (although I wish you were right). It's about sensationalism, hot takes, and clicks, nothing else. How often are you getting thoughtful, intelligent analysis in media these days? Not often.

I depends on how you define "value added." People love the hot takes, even if they are stupid. There's a reason the hot take shows stay on the air. There are some thoughtful people in sports media, but you have to search for them.

Regardless, the media game today is about analysis, commentary, and opinion that you enjoy, whether its hot takes or actual thoughtful stuff. Jimmy is a relic from an era where the media was more concentrated, and it was really notable when you were the first to break the news that something had happened. There's no real value in that anymore because there are so many different distribution channels.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Long post incoming... This is a completely non scientific just for fun thing. But most coaches have their big coming out parties and hit their stride in year 2 or 3. Because Kiffin has only been at Ole Miss one year, I am using his record at FAU. Here are some stats from our possible HC hires, and their offense and defensive improvements made in year 2 of their jobs. Also included are top 25 games and total HC record. Who do you want?

Lane Kiffin
Total HC record: 66-39 (63%)
Total vs top 25: 4-17 (19%)

FAU total offense year before arrival: 72nd
FAU total offense two years after arrival: 14th
FAU total defense year before arrival: 124th
FAU total defense two years after arrival: 85th


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Billy Napier
Total HC record: 28-11 (72%)
Total vs top 25: 1-3 (25%)

LA Lafayette total offense year before arrival: 65th
LA Lafayette total offense two years after arrival: 8th
LA Lafayette total defense year before arrival: 124th
LA Lafayette total defense two years after arrival: 47th

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Jamey Chadwell
Total HC record: 79-52 (60%)
Total vs top 25: 2-3 (40%)

Coastal Carolina total offense year before arrival: 87th
Coastal Carolina total offense two years after arrival: 25th
Coastal Carolina total defense year before arrival: 110th
Coastal Carolina total defense two years after arrival: 31st


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Hugh Freeze
Total HC record: 60-38 (61%)
Total vs top 25: 13-18 (42%)

Liberty total offense year before arrival: 46th
Liberty total offense two years after arrival: 15th
Liberty total defense year before arrival: 123rd
Liberty total defense two years after arrival: 10th


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Matt Campbell
HC record: 70-43 (62%)
Total vs top 25: 12-17 (41%)

Iowa State total offense year before arrival: 58th
Iowa State total offense two years after arrival: 86th
Iowa State total defense year before arrival: 108th
Iowa State total defense two years after arrival: 43rd


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Luke Fickell
Total HC record: 41-21 (66%)
Total vs top 25: 6-11 (35%)

Cincinnati total offense year before arrival: 98th
Cincinnati total offense two years after arrival: 23rd
Cincinnati total defense year before arrival: 72nd
Cincinnati total defense two years after arrival: 11th

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Jeremy Pruitt
Total HC record: 16-19 (46%)
Total vs top 25: 2-11 (15%)

Tennessee total offense year before arrival: 125th
Tennessee total offense two years after arrival: 100th
Tennessee total defense year before arrival: 82nd
Tennessee total defense two years after arrival: 23rd

Chadwell, Freeze and Fickell jump out there.

 

[butchna]

Crouch realized he wasn't going to start elsewhere lol

Guessing Jahmir Johnson is one.

 

["It's Time"]

I know y'all **** on Jimmy but this is the first mention of Dykes that I've seen. Worth monitoring.

I’m willing to roll the dice, but if we’re going this route give me Chadwell.

 

[McGeesPub]

Sonny Dykes is an interesting one.

Don’t see the upside there.

 

[Rizzo924]

Sab trying to get Brice in trouble. What a loser lol

This makes me like Brice even more

 

[RockyTop411]

If I don't start preparing for it, it's going to be a gut-punch if its Elliott, Dykes, or Leipold. Better start now.

 

[VolInDayton]

Adam Sandler - HC
Kevin James - OL/DL

Steve Buscemi-special teams coordinator

 

[SpringBokVol]

JJ and Crouch

JJ and Crouch.

This is most likely

 

[bigorangecrush89]

I know y'all **** on Jimmy but this is the first mention of Dykes that I've seen. Worth monitoring.

Boy that is an uninspiring list.

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

Sonny Dykes is a new name. Not sure about that choice?

 

[snowvols]

I know y'all **** on Jimmy but this is the first mention of Dykes that I've seen. Worth monitoring.

Dykes doesn't really fit the up and coming coach mold. He was just ok at Cal and a little above average at SMU. Would be really underwhelming.

Edit: I thought he was better at Cal than he actually was. He was 19-30.

 

[jakez4ut]

Chadwell, Freeze and Fickell jump out there.

oh, sure, you'll read @Catbone's novel.......

i have the sads.

 

[KeyVol14]

That list jimmy hyams came out with is complete garbage. No way you pay those 3 coaches 7 mill a year

 

[VolInDayton]

JJ and Crouch

I'm assuming this and if either HT or Gray is returning I'll be happy.

 

[SugarCC]

Sab trying to get Brice in trouble. What a loser lol

And he'll do it, too; hide and watch. Brice will be reprimanded in someway. Yes, such a loser.

 

[Kingston Vol]

That list jimmy hyams came out with is complete garbage. No way you pay those 3 coaches 7 mill a year

You're headed down the wrong path by assuming we have to spend $7M on a candidate.

 

[Nashvegas31]

Ok I edit my earlier post. I trust any hire White makes unless it’s Sonny Dykes.

 

[RikidyBones]

It doesn't get to those candidates. It won't pass Lane Kiffin. He's our floor imo.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Sab trying to get Brice in trouble. What a loser lol

lol sab

 

[Ten_Titans]

Sonny Dykes is a new name. Not sure about that choice?

Failed big time at Cal.

 

[VolInNorthCack]

I know y'all **** on Jimmy but this is the first mention of Dykes that I've seen. Worth monitoring.

I heard Dykes mentioned by someone on the radio the other day. Forget who it was.

 

[volfaninpa]

FYI. Sonny Dykes is at SMU. Danny White's sister works in the A.D. there.

 

[KeyVol14]

You're headed down the wrong path by assuming we have to spend $7M on a candidate.

And your headed down the wrong path if you think anyone is gonna be excited about those name

 

[EdEcEko77]

I swear to gosh if we hire Sonny fkn Dykes over Lane Kiffin