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VolsdeepVFL

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Long post incoming... This is a completely non scientific just for fun thing. But most coaches have their big coming out parties and hit their stride in year 2 or 3. Because Kiffin has only been at Ole Miss one year, I am using his record at FAU. Here are some stats from our possible HC hires, and their offense and defensive improvements made in year 2 of their jobs. Also included are top 25 games and total HC record. Who do you want?

Lane Kiffin
Total HC record: 66-39 (63%)
Total vs top 25: 4-17 (19%)

FAU total offense year before arrival: 72nd
FAU total offense two years after arrival: 14th
FAU total defense year before arrival: 124th
FAU total defense two years after arrival: 85th


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Billy Napier
Total HC record: 28-11 (72%)
Total vs top 25: 1-3 (25%)

LA Lafayette total offense year before arrival: 65th
LA Lafayette total offense two years after arrival: 8th
LA Lafayette total defense year before arrival: 124th
LA Lafayette total defense two years after arrival: 47th

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Jamey Chadwell
Total HC record: 79-52 (60%)
Total vs top 25: 2-3 (40%)

Coastal Carolina total offense year before arrival: 87th
Coastal Carolina total offense two years after arrival: 25th
Coastal Carolina total defense year before arrival: 110th
Coastal Carolina total defense two years after arrival: 31st


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Hugh Freeze
Total HC record: 60-38 (61%)
Total vs top 25: 13-18 (42%)

Liberty total offense year before arrival: 46th
Liberty total offense two years after arrival: 15th
Liberty total defense year before arrival: 123rd
Liberty total defense two years after arrival: 10th


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Matt Campbell
HC record: 70-43 (62%)
Total vs top 25: 12-17 (41%)

Iowa State total offense year before arrival: 58th
Iowa State total offense two years after arrival: 86th
Iowa State total defense year before arrival: 108th
Iowa State total defense two years after arrival: 43rd


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Luke Fickell
Total HC record: 41-21 (66%)
Total vs top 25: 6-11 (35%)

Cincinnati total offense year before arrival: 98th
Cincinnati total offense two years after arrival: 23rd
Cincinnati total defense year before arrival: 72nd
Cincinnati total defense two years after arrival: 11th

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Jeremy Pruitt
Total HC record: 16-19 (46%)
Total vs top 25: 2-11 (15%)

Tennessee total offense year before arrival: 125th
Tennessee total offense two years after arrival: 100th
Tennessee total defense year before arrival: 82nd
Tennessee total defense two years after arrival: 23rd
Freeze and Fickle really stand out...also worth saying Pruitt quickly did wonder to our D
 

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And I disagree. Many of the black candidates interviewed are an afterthought. I find it insulting. Maybe, maybe it served a purpose at first. But now, it's just a joke. How many times have you heard of a candidate being interviewed "just to satisfy the Rooney Rule"? I hear it a lot, and it seems demeaning IMO. It's like they're saying, "you don't really deserve this, but because you're black ...". It's like a perpetuation of passive racism.
I get what your saying. Typically I would agree. But I’ve seen a few interviews where owners did the interview because they had to. Came away impressed and it set them up for promotions on down the road. I don’t it’s terrible to force an interview. Force a hire. Whole different conversation.
 

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Long post incoming... This is a completely non scientific just for fun thing. But most coaches have their big coming out parties and hit their stride in year 2 or 3. Because Kiffin has only been at Ole Miss one year, I am using his record at FAU. Here are some stats from our possible HC hires, and their offense and defensive improvements made in year 2 of their jobs. Also included are top 25 games and total HC record. Who do you want?

Lane Kiffin
Total HC record: 66-39 (63%)
Total vs top 25: 4-17 (19%)

FAU total offense year before arrival: 72nd
FAU total offense two years after arrival: 14th
FAU total defense year before arrival: 124th
FAU total defense two years after arrival: 85th


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Billy Napier
Total HC record: 28-11 (72%)
Total vs top 25: 1-3 (25%)

LA Lafayette total offense year before arrival: 65th
LA Lafayette total offense two years after arrival: 8th
LA Lafayette total defense year before arrival: 124th
LA Lafayette total defense two years after arrival: 47th

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Jamey Chadwell
Total HC record: 79-52 (60%)
Total vs top 25: 2-3 (40%)

Coastal Carolina total offense year before arrival: 87th
Coastal Carolina total offense two years after arrival: 25th
Coastal Carolina total defense year before arrival: 110th
Coastal Carolina total defense two years after arrival: 31st


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Hugh Freeze
Total HC record: 60-38 (61%)
Total vs top 25: 13-18 (42%)

Liberty total offense year before arrival: 46th
Liberty total offense two years after arrival: 15th
Liberty total defense year before arrival: 123rd
Liberty total defense two years after arrival: 10th


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Matt Campbell
HC record: 70-43 (62%)
Total vs top 25: 12-17 (41%)

Iowa State total offense year before arrival: 58th
Iowa State total offense two years after arrival: 86th
Iowa State total defense year before arrival: 108th
Iowa State total defense two years after arrival: 43rd


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Luke Fickell
Total HC record: 41-21 (66%)
Total vs top 25: 6-11 (35%)

Cincinnati total offense year before arrival: 98th
Cincinnati total offense two years after arrival: 23rd
Cincinnati total defense year before arrival: 72nd
Cincinnati total defense two years after arrival: 11th

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Jeremy Pruitt
Total HC record: 16-19 (46%)
Total vs top 25: 2-11 (15%)

Tennessee total offense year before arrival: 125th
Tennessee total offense two years after arrival: 100th
Tennessee total defense year before arrival: 82nd
Tennessee total defense two years after arrival: 23rd
Gimme Freeze still
 
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Long post incoming... This is a completely non scientific just for fun thing. But most coaches have their big coming out parties and hit their stride in year 2 or 3. Because Kiffin has only been at Ole Miss one year, I am using his record at FAU. Here are some stats from our possible HC hires, and their offense and defensive improvements made in year 2 of their jobs. Also included are top 25 games and total HC record. Who do you want?

Lane Kiffin
Total HC record: 66-39 (63%)
Total vs top 25: 4-17 (19%)

FAU total offense year before arrival: 72nd
FAU total offense two years after arrival: 14th
FAU total defense year before arrival: 124th
FAU total defense two years after arrival: 85th


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Billy Napier
Total HC record: 28-11 (72%)
Total vs top 25: 1-3 (25%)

LA Lafayette total offense year before arrival: 65th
LA Lafayette total offense two years after arrival: 8th
LA Lafayette total defense year before arrival: 124th
LA Lafayette total defense two years after arrival: 47th

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Jamey Chadwell
Total HC record: 79-52 (60%)
Total vs top 25: 2-3 (40%)

Coastal Carolina total offense year before arrival: 87th
Coastal Carolina total offense two years after arrival: 25th
Coastal Carolina total defense year before arrival: 110th
Coastal Carolina total defense two years after arrival: 31st


_______________________________

Hugh Freeze
Total HC record: 60-38 (61%)
Total vs top 25: 13-18 (42%)

Liberty total offense year before arrival: 46th
Liberty total offense two years after arrival: 15th
Liberty total defense year before arrival: 123rd
Liberty total defense two years after arrival: 10th


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Matt Campbell
HC record: 70-43 (62%)
Total vs top 25: 12-17 (41%)

Iowa State total offense year before arrival: 58th
Iowa State total offense two years after arrival: 86th
Iowa State total defense year before arrival: 108th
Iowa State total defense two years after arrival: 43rd


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Luke Fickell
Total HC record: 41-21 (66%)
Total vs top 25: 6-11 (35%)

Cincinnati total offense year before arrival: 98th
Cincinnati total offense two years after arrival: 23rd
Cincinnati total defense year before arrival: 72nd
Cincinnati total defense two years after arrival: 11th

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Jeremy Pruitt
Total HC record: 16-19 (46%)
Total vs top 25: 2-11 (15%)

Tennessee total offense year before arrival: 125th
Tennessee total offense two years after arrival: 100th
Tennessee total defense year before arrival: 82nd
Tennessee total defense two years after arrival: 23rd
Napier & Campbell really stand out when you look at it this way. Campbell's win % against top 25 is incredible given the program he's doing it at.
 
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